Ongoing NFL Discussion Thread V

by **Pr4wn** Sat 4 Jan 2014 - 16:45

First topic message reminder :

Strong staff for us, I'm excited for next season!

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 16:44

People really will do anything to discredit Peyton.

by Lowlandbrit Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 17:05

deadspin.com/a-guide-to-richard-sherman-your-new-favorite-nfl-player

Sherman stuck the nickname Optimus Prime on himself, because Optimus kicks Megatron's ass.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 17:06

San Fran play at Denver and at Seattle (obvs) next year, there's your opening game NFL...

by **Pr4wn** Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 18:24

GSC wrote:Belichick wasn't even asked about the play. Fair to say theres bad blood there.

So the cheat is complaining about cheating? Lol.

by Thomond Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 18:26

Peyton's in a no win sitaution. If he wins it will be "why haven't you done it more, you choke artist". If he loses to one of the greatest defences of all time *based on a single year's performance they legitimately are, it's "he choked again". Got to love insane QB narratives, liek that one about how Colin Kaepernick was going to change the world or something like that.........

Sherman's earned the right to talk. One of the best CBs in the game (I'm biased with Revis but Sherman doesn't always stick to the number one, Sherman's a better ball hawk baits QBs into throwing the ball with phenomenal closing speed.)

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 18:32

Peyton choked last year apparently.

Not like his defense allowed a long TD pass in the last 2 minutes or anything

by Thomond Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 18:35

I think I saw a stats that of Peyton's last 10 or elevent Playoff INTs over half of them were tipped.

by GSC Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 18:51

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/20/report-crabtree-tried-to-fight-sherman-at-a-charity-event-last-year/

by RDuncan8 Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 18:56

GSC wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/20/report-crabtree-tried-to-fight-sherman-at-a-charity-event-last-year/

Says Sherman's older brother....

by Number-25 Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 21:27

I can't get worked up one or way or the other about a Sherman rant these days - the guy has just become white noise to me. He is what he is - a good CB with a big mouth. You hear another one of his rants and you just think "Whatever dude".

Re Peyton and his supposed cold weather weakness - I'm not aware of the stats on this but he seems to have done ok playing in Denver which isn't exactly the Costa del Sol in the Winter months. Anyway, the average February temperature in NY ranges between -4 and 4... that's hardly "Green Bay" cold. Peyton will be just fine.

by **Pr4wn** Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 23:27

The NFL is considering abandoning the extra point and making personal fouls reviewable.

by Thomond Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 23:32

I think you can still go for two within that Pr4wn. I've always thought that given enough time a drop kick 2 point conversion would be easily coachable and probably as likely as converting a 2 point conversion in the grand scheme of things.

by mikeygnfl Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 0:30

Here is the updated nfl.com playoff challenge leaderboard:-

RDuncan8 is leading with his all Broncos-Seahawks team and is also 54th in the whole competition.

Rank Entry Points
1 rduncan8's picks 513
2 leebenbow's picks 508
3 crazydave23's picks 495
4 The Stormbringers 470
5 gb1919's picks 426
6 I'd rather win the Lotto but... 413
7 Shepton Mallet Matadors 405
8 BamBam's picks 372
8 redmistx's picks 372
9 pr4wn's picks 368
10 Take it to the house 360
11 jvaszst's picks 353
12 wadey101's picks 314
13 mikeygnfl 309
14 ollyrules's picks 264
15 nicklj88's picks 0

by mikeygnfl Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 0:33

Thomond wrote:I think you can still go for two within that Pr4wn. I've always thought that given enough time a drop kick 2 point conversion would be easily coachable and probably as likely as converting a 2 point conversion in the grand scheme of things.

How about keep the 1 point conversion but make that a drop kick? I can understand why they want to get rid of it but not sure there will be that much support with fans/ traditionalists.

Maybe they could copy rugby and just have a place kick from in line were the TD was scored.

by TM Moot Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 8:10

mikeygnfl wrote:Here is the updated nfl.com playoff challenge leaderboard:-

RDuncan8 is leading with his all Broncos-Seahawks team and is also 54th in the whole competition.

Rank Entry Points
1 rduncan8's picks 513
2 leebenbow's picks 508
3 crazydave23's picks 495
4 The Stormbringers 470
5 gb1919's picks 426
6 I'd rather win the Lotto but... 413
7 Shepton Mallet Matadors 405
8 BamBam's picks 372
8 redmistx's picks 372
9 pr4wn's picks 368
10 Take it to the house 360
11 jvaszst's picks 353
12 wadey101's picks 314
13 mikeygnfl 309
14 ollyrules's picks 264
15 nicklj88's picks 0

impressive rduncan8, 54th and should move up plenty
quite happy with my 405pts, only had to bring in 2 new starters forthe SB

by sodhat Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 9:28

mikeygnfl wrote:
Thomond wrote:I think you can still go for two within that Pr4wn. I've always thought that given enough time a drop kick 2 point conversion would be easily coachable and probably as likely as converting a 2 point conversion in the grand scheme of things.
How about keep the 1 point conversion but make that a drop kick? I can understand why they want to get rid of it but not sure there will be that much support with fans/ traditionalists.

Maybe they could copy rugby and just have a place kick from in line were the TD was scored.

I say just move the kick back so it's a 35 or 40 yard kick instead.

My alternative suggestions:

replacing the football with one of those cheap pound shop footballs that curl a million different ways whenever you kick it. Try getting that through.
having one of the offensive line take the kick, and another holding for him.
changing it to a crossbar challenge, so you have to get the ball off the post to score a point.
change the goal posts to crazy golf style windmill holes, and have the kicker have to time the kick perfectly to get it through a giant Roger Goodell opening and closing his legs.

by GSC Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 9:52

The extra point is a waste of time. Great decision. 5/1260 were missed last year.

Scrap the XP, if you go for 2 and fail you get 6.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 10:05

Yep agree a good idea to get rid/change it. Much like GSC I'd just scrap it

by TM Moot Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 10:19

have i got this right..

a TD = 7pts
going for '2' and succeeding = 8pts
going for '2' and failing = 6pts

quite happy to see the PAT go, it is traditional but fairly pointless (excuse the pun Rolling Eyes

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by Number-25 Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 17:09

I take it then that the proposed attempt to run/pass it in would be optional? In other words you can stick with 7 and move straight on to the kick off or risk a point by trying to gain an extra one?

Makes sense I guess. PATs are dull but suppose you could also say if ain't broke don't fix it. I'd be up for the change though.

by **Pr4wn** Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 18:41

That's exactly what they're suggesting 25.

by Lowlandbrit Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 19:04

Let's get an update on that Browns coaching search (who don't have a HC, OC or DC right now):
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
#Broncos OC Adam Gase has thanked #Browns for their interest but informed them they can move on with their search as he focuses on the game

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 19:06

Saw someone say earlier that if the extra point was proposed now, people would laugh at the stupidity of it. Pretty true really, it's a fairly automatic exercise 99% of the time.

Jason Licht new Bucs GM

by crazy_dave23 Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 19:22

mikeygnfl wrote:Here is the updated nfl.com playoff challenge leaderboard:-

RDuncan8 is leading with his all Broncos-Seahawks team and is also 54th in the whole competition.

Rank Entry Points
1 rduncan8's picks 513
2 leebenbow's picks 508
3 crazydave23's picks 495
4 The Stormbringers 470
5 gb1919's picks 426
6 I'd rather win the Lotto but... 413
7 Shepton Mallet Matadors 405
8 BamBam's picks 372
8 redmistx's picks 372
9 pr4wn's picks 368
10 Take it to the house 360
11 jvaszst's picks 353
12 wadey101's picks 314
13 mikeygnfl 309
14 ollyrules's picks 264
15 nicklj88's picks 0

I should have sold out on Broncos and Seahawks like RDuncan8 did. I'm still sitting pretty, but too much of my team is duplicated with RDuncan and a couple of those are on smaller multipliers for me to make a difference

by mikeygnfl Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 19:22

I did see someone who suggested just replacing the PAT with the 2 pt conversion.

by GSC Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 19:24

I can't think of a more pointless exercise in sport than the extra point

by **Pr4wn** Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 20:08

I completely misunderstood that playoff challenge. Should read the rules next year!

by crazy_dave23 Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 20:14

Pr4wn wrote:I completely misunderstood that playoff challenge. Should read the rules next year!

Yeah its so tempting to bag the points in week 1, but you basically have to go for broke on Superbowl participants... especially if you think they will come from the wild card rounds

by crazy_dave23 Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 20:28

Nice fact...

The Broncos have punted once in the playoffs

by BamBam Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 22:06

That's pretty insane ..

Interesting that the 3 best defences in the playoffs were all NFC. Is there any AFC defence in the same league?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 21 Jan 2014 - 22:22

I'd say Cincy's defence would be (especially considering they were down Atkins and Hall).

by BamBam Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 0:18

Pro Bowl draft is tonight

by BamBam Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 0:45

Oh actually, today is just OL, DL and special teams. Rest is tomorrow

by NYJ Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 12:49

How cool would it be if Manning had the greatest season of all time, won the Super Bowl then retired at the very top of his game.

by **Pr4wn** Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 12:54

Won the superbowl by beating Richard Sherman on a deep ball.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 12:55

Can't see him hanging it up yet NYJ, even if he does win in New Jersey. Think he'll try to go for two more years

by GSC Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 13:08

Peyton won't retire. He loves it too much

by NYJ Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 13:56

Olly wrote:Can't see him hanging it up yet NYJ, even if he does win in New Jersey. Think he'll try to go for two more years

Sadly. He would be the coolest man alive if he announced in his Super Bowl MVP speech that he's going out on top.

by BamBam Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 14:10

Elway esque

by Lowlandbrit Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 14:10

There was a report that he's having a neck exam at the end of the season to decide if he can play another year or not.

by mikeygnfl Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 15:45

If Peyton Manning wins the Super Bowl, wouldn't he want to try to win another one and match Tom Brady's three wins?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 16:14

He's got it good in Denver, bunch of quality WR's and an offensive line that makes sure he isn't touched most of the time. Plus him and Gase seem to have formed a good connection.

Would be silly to walk away now, unless he physically can't do it

by Lowlandbrit Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 15:21

Looks like the Browns have finally found someone willing to take the job: Bills DC Mike Pettine is supposedly negotiating a contract. Although if that falls through, they also interviewed Schiano recently...

by **Pr4wn** Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 16:19

Bookmakers in the USA have started to quote an over/under on how many times Peyton Manning will say "Omaha" in the superbowl. The price is currently at 27.5.

by crazy_dave23 Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 17:34

I think he is trending down from 44 to 31 over the playoffs... i'd still go over

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 20:36

Zach Kruse ‏@zachkruse2
If Ndamukong Suh does not re-do his deal before next season, he, Calvin Johnson and Matthew Stafford will count $51.3M against #Lions cap.

Yikes! Shocked

by GSC Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 20:54

After the least competent HC search in recent memory Mike Pettine is the new Browns HC

by Lowlandbrit Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 21:34

Hope he's got plenty of contacts, because the Browns have almost no coaches left at this point.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 21:37

Lowlandbrit wrote:Hope he's got plenty of contacts, because the Browns have almost no coaches left at this point.

Yeah losing Norv and Horton were big blows, two pretty damn good coordinators there.

by Lowlandbrit Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 21:43

Olly wrote:Yeah losing Norv and Horton were big blows, two pretty damn good coordinators there.

It's not just the coordinators, most of the position coaches have taken other jobs too.

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