Scotland v Australia, 23 November

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Scotland v Australia
 
23 November 2013, KO: 18:00
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
 
Referee: Jaco Peyper (RSA)
AR1: Pascal Gauzere (FRA)
AR2: Francisco Pastrana (ARG)
TMO: Geoff Warren (ENG)
 
LIVE on BBC
 
A. Teams:
 
1. Jessies
 
15 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors) 7 caps, 1 try, 5 points
14 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) 4 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
13 Nick De Luca (Edinburgh Rugby) 40 caps, 1 try, 5 points
12 Duncan Taylor (Saracens) 5 caps
11 Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) 81 caps, 12 tries, 60 points

10 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) 7 caps, 1 try, 2 conversions, 9 points
9 Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby) 23 caps, 3 tries, 23 conversions, 49 penalties, 208 points

1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) 12 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) 70 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
3 Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors) 22 caps
4 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby)
5 Jim Hamilton (Montpellier) 49 caps, 1 try, 5 points
6 Johnnie Beattie (Montpellier) 25 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
7 Kelly Brown (Saracens) 59 caps, 4 tries, 20 points CAPTAIN
8 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby) 16 caps
 
16 Pat MacArthur (Glasgow Warriors) 2 caps
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) 29 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
18 Euan Murray (Worcester Warriors) 57 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
19 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors)
20 Kieran Low (London Irish) uncapped
21 Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors) 63 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
22 Ruaridh Jackson (Glasgow Warriors) 23 caps, 3 conversions, 2 penalties, 2 drop-goals 18 points
23 Max Evans (Castres) 36 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
  
2. Wallabies

15 Israel Folau
14 Joe Tomane
13 Christian Leali'ifano
12 Mike Harris
11 Chris Feauai-Sautia
10 Quade Cooper
9 Will Genia
 
8 Ben Mowen (capt)
7 Michael Hooper
6 Scott Fardy
5 James Horwill
4 Rob Simmons
3 Sekope Kepu
2 Stephen Moore
1 James Slipper
 
16 Saia Fainga'a
17 Ben Alexander
18 Paddy Ryan
19 Sitaleki Timani
20 Ben McCalman
21 Nic White
22 Nick Phipps
23 Bernard Foley
 
B. Recent Form - last seven
 
1. Scotland
 
Scotland - South Africa 0-28
Scotland - Italy 30-29
South Africa - Scotland 30-17
Samoa - Scotland 27-17
France - Scotland 23-16
Scotland - Wales 18-28
Scotland - Ireland 12-8
 
2. Australia
 
15-32 Ireland - Australia
20-13 England - Australia
41-33 New Zealand - Australia
17-54 Argentina - Australia
28-8 South Africa - Australia
14-13 Australia - Argentina
12-38 Australia - South Africa
 
C. Recent Form - head to head
 
5 June 2012, Hunter Stadium, Newcastle
Scotland Tour of Australasia
Australia 6 – 9 Scotland
 
21 November 2009, Murrayfield, Edinburgh
2009 Autumn International
Scotland 9 – 8 Australia
 
25 November 2006, Murrayfield, Edinburgh
2006 Autumn International
Scotland 15 – 44 Australia
 
20 November 2004, Hampden Park, Glasgow
2004 Autumn International
Scotland 17 – 31 Australia
 
6 November 2004, Murrayfield, Edinburgh
2004 Autumn International  
Scotland 14 – 31 Australia

What are you Scottish fans thoughts on Nick de Luca?

RDW_Scotland wrote:That Genis scrum feed was ridiculous - what's the point in the new scrum rules if the refs ignore them?

The feed wasn't that far from straight - but the hooker was "feet up" was he not?

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson sees winning the matches against SA & Aus as a bonus over and above figuring out the squad (which he doesn't appear to have done much of anyway) . If we give a good showing in the WC and beyond I will forgive, but this is ... a little uninspired.

Nachos Jones wrote:What are you Scottish fans thoughts on Nick de Luca?

That's a loaded question ...

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:yellow which is fair . hate seeing red

Typical Anti-Wales comment. Maybe you're right Saint.  

Kaha derives from Proto-Polynesian Kafa which means strong like rope. Tongan would be different but he'd know what it means.

 

Thanks, I did look it up but it wasn't very informative. I've noticed the language is kind of similar to what the Maori speak/type up. Might say "you're kafa" from now on though.

Nachos Jones wrote:What are you Scottish fans thoughts on Nick de Luca?

Bampot

TJ wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:That Genis scrum feed was ridiculous - what's the point in the new scrum rules if the refs ignore them?

The feed wasn't that far from straight - but the hooker was "feet up" was he not?

It basically went into the 2nd row!

Ineffable wrote:

Nachos Jones wrote:What are you Scottish fans thoughts on Nick de Luca?

That's a loaded question ...

I really used to rate him but I just cant see his worth in the Scotland side at times.

Nachos Jones wrote:What are you Scottish fans thoughts on Nick de Luca?

Flakier than a stale pain au chocolat in a wind tunnel. Sporadically brilliant, usually when a game is irretrievably lost. Just does not have the temperament for international games. Brainfarts are legendary. Edinburgh fans will decry these comments as heinously unfair.

Our rucking is so crap! Not dynamic at all

George Carlin wrote:

Nachos Jones wrote:What are you Scottish fans thoughts on Nick de Luca?

Flakier than a stale pain au chocolat in a wind tunnel. Sporadically brilliant, usually when a game is irretrievably lost. Just does not have the temperament for international games. Brainfarts are legendary. Edinburgh fans will decry these comments as heinously unfair.

They shouldn't because your comments are based on international form only.

DeLUca is one of those players who will do both good stuff and stupid stuff in the same game. If our first choice players were available I wouldn't play him but he is in great form

George Carlin wrote:

Nachos Jones wrote:What are you Scottish fans thoughts on Nick de Luca?

Flakier than a stale pain au chocolat in a wind tunnel. Sporadically brilliant, usually when a game is irretrievably lost. Just does not have the temperament for international games. Brainfarts are legendary. Edinburgh fans will decry these comments as heinously unfair.

Ahhh Scotlands Kieth Earls

To be honest this is on a plate for Scotland for a cheeky 3rd from 3 ...
Let's not forget Aus v Sco could be the 2015 WC Quarter Final.

Sporting crowd as ever, another bad miss for put Aus clear.

Nick De Luca is the epitomy of a player who has all the talent too be a top player but not the temperament or consistency to play internationally thus he gets picked having played well for Edinburgh and then screws up for Scotland, very much so like Jackson and as result when they both play we have serious problems

Ref has given no time to place the ball at the ruck at all but has been very consistent.

What a tackle o.O

That last pass from De Luca was an example of what he can do if he's switched on.

Jonny Gray outstanding cameo so far - lifted the crowd & the squad

Hahaha at Andy Robinson saying the crowd loves Max Evans. Probably trying to defend his 3 year use of him !!

Why do Scotland always look knackered?

RDW_Scotland wrote:Why do Scotland always look knackered?

In fairness, it has been a very physical game.

That was simply stupid from Lamont...

RDW_Scotland wrote:Why do Scotland always look knackered?

The weight of expectation?

 

Stupid, stupid penalty.

Game over.  

Can we please make sure thats the last we see of Lamont - he just made an utter hash of that.  Maitland showed him where to go  Bam. Lamont blew a try in the first half has coughed up a couple of balls and just has no pace or pass at all. Greedy Bam

This is the first time Scottish commentators are annoying me because I'm that tolerant, but it's gone from annoying to unbearable in just one match.

Luckily for Scotland the Oz kicker is really not having a good night.

The Scottish tries are as elusive as Weir's neck...

How are Scotland still within a score?

glamorganalun wrote:How are Scotland still within a score?

Was just thinking that myself.

glamorganalun wrote:How are Scotland still within a score?

The Oz kicker has been poor.

Rolling maul to win?

Or sling it to Lamont and let him work his magic?

Think it's fair to so the lineout has majorly messed up our chances this series

glamorganalun wrote:How are Scotland still within a score?

Tradition, mostly. Leaves space to commit hari kari with 2 to go.

Neither.

Folau MOTM

Frak it, I am turning over to watch the France vs SA game

Izzy Folau man of the match , fully deserved . such a great attacking force

cakeordeath wrote:Frak it, I am turning over to watch the France vs SA game

Wait! Scotland are driving on...!

...and as I type that, a penalty for Oz.  

On the bright side, much better performance than last week

Cari wrote:

cakeordeath wrote:Frak it, I am turning over to watch the France vs SA game

Wait!  Scotland are driving on...!

You've not watched enough Scotland matches , Cari. All Scottish supporters knew the result by 55.

Lineouts and rucking lost us that game

Was there for the taking that game!

cakeordeath wrote:On the bright side, much better performance than last week

I'm not sure about that. I focus on psychology and I think this was worse. We need to put these games away when it's given to us.

So it's official. People we need to beat any sort of decent opposition:

- Hogg
- Scott
- Swinson

and

1.maitlands too slow
2.we only have 1 good set of backs
3. we dont have a good fly half
4. we never play brown in his best position
5. we are really missing rennie
6. gray jnr looks v good.
7. scrum is decent
7 lineout is a total farce

oh dear bad result really

alive555 wrote:and

1.maitlands too slow
2.we only have 1 good set of backs
3. we dont have a good fly half
4. we never play brown in his best position
5. we are really missing rennie
6. gray jnr looks v good.
7. scrum is decent
7 lineout is a total farce

oh dear bad result really

Wait didn't Maitland post the best 100m time for the Glasgow squad when he came in last year?
Has Scotland turned him from a 'great' player into a 'good' one?