Hansen: "England not worth worrying about"

"England are not even on my mind at the moment. I get a bit frustrated hearing about England. We'll deal about them in England week." All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has explicitly crushed any anticipation that NZ will view England as a grudge or revenge match today by stating emphatically that he doesn't believe they're worth more than a weeks standard analysis and preparation.


Instead Shag is focussing in the twin squad challenge of Japan and France who appear to be the All Blacks targets for the focus of this tour: building depth in key positions, giving DC the challenge of re asserting his position as first pick at 10, and his apprentice projects Savea Jr, Toomaga-Allen and fringe squad members such as Halai.


England are the only team to have dented Hansens unbeaten coaching record on last years end of year tour when they overcame the off colour All Blacks in the final game of the season. But that for Hansen appears not worthy of any greater consideration than any other challenge facing NZ. 


His approach has seen NZ clinch two undefeated rugby championship titles and retain the coveted #1 world ranking despite introducing 16 new All Blacks. 


Is he right to write off England? Or is he walking into a second ambush?

GE, not worth worrying about

  

How do you get to writing off England if he specifically states he'll get to them during the week the All Blacks have to face them?

He merely says what every other international coach says.

One week at a time.

Thanks Biltong, Next one GE!!

Yawn. Complete non-story.

Biltong wrote:How do you get to writing off England if he specifically states he'll get to them during the week the All Blacks have to face them?

He merely says what every other international coach says.

One week at a time.

Is he BT? Isn't there a tendency for other coaches to indulge by making special mention of England? Especially in the unlikely circumstance of having lost to them? 

Anyway, if Shag says France and Japan are a bigger issue and warrant twice the thought, then fair enough.

Anyone worried about this 'Jude' storm supposedly popping up tonight?

All together:

Hey Jude...

butterfingers wrote:Anyone worried about this 'Jude' storm supposedly popping up tonight?

Nah, Wife's home on holiday, kids are on half term break and I'm working from home tomorrow.....bring it on!!

butterfingers wrote:Anyone worried about this 'Jude' storm supposedly popping up tonight?

Moved the bins from the side of the house but that's it...

Personally my concern is rather around the inevitable hysterical reaction to some actual weather instead of the endless endless drizzle and mild sun which is the perennial norm.

The locals should be more concerned about the All Blacks storm gathering in Japan and the relentless wave of total rugby headed for these shores.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Personally my concern is rather around the inevitable hysterical reaction to some actual weather instead of the endless endless drizzle and mild sun which is the perennial norm.

The locals should be more concerned about the All Blacks storm gathering in Japan and the relentless wave of total rugby headed for these shores.

Just a little damp wind and hot air forecast for GE  

Inevitable hysterical reaction over NZs arrival this November. Nodded off already...

GloriousEmpire wrote:Personally my concern is rather around the inevitable hysterical reaction to some actual weather instead of the endless endless drizzle and mild sun which is the perennial norm.

The locals should be more concerned about the All Blacks storm gathering in Japan and the relentless wave of total rugby headed for these shores.

Effortless segue.

Well they have predicted 80mph winds, that should get pretty rough, especially in training tomorrow night.

I don't think the backs will get much out of it...

I think he should be very worried about England.

GE. HAnsen will not worry about England. Untill they are due to play them.

The All Black motto. One game at a time.

It's started to drizzle. I've locked myself in the bespoke bunker I had made and I'm heAting beans over camping fire. Am I being suitably precautious?

How does a busboy make enough to have his own camping fire? Are there 6 of you in the 2 bed house sharing?

Wales have no problem sweeping aside England. Perhaps Gats and Hansen, two fellow kiwi's with a lot in common, can meet up before the game. Gats will show Hansen how to beat Eng while Hansen can show him how to beat Aus.

The Saint.

Maybe Gats can learn how Wales can beat the All Blacks. Maybe not. 

And Samoa, Argentina, Japan.....

Nice post madge. Doesn't make much sense, but a decorative emoticon.

Hansen: "Excuse me, how do you do this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21778425"
Gats: "Steve Walsh."

Well it's a bright sunny day, light winds. Few branches off trees, but nothing major. Perfect sailing day in London actually. Reminds me of an autumnal Wellington morning.

For some reason I'm the only one who's showed up for work. Interesting.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Well it's a bright sunny day, light winds. Few branches off trees, but nothing major. Perfect sailing day in London actually. Reminds me of an autumnal Wellington morning.

For some reason I'm the only one who's showed up for work. Interesting.

Look behind you Glorious... Is that wings on your back?

The Jude storm has been disappointing, except that all forms of public transport have ceased to function. Very annoying

ChequeredJersey wrote:The Jude storm has been disappointing, except that all forms of public transport have ceased to function. Very annoying

Normal day in blighty then  

Total and predictable hysterical over reaction just as predicted.

The media in Britain really need to be wound in. They sensationalise everything and precipitate chaos for no reason.

Same with house prices. Ultimately they are responsible for the financial crisis and then they created the propaganda war against banks to cover their arses.

They do the same thing to British sporting teams.

I have to say I agree with a lot of that, though not quite to the degree you seem to

GloriousEmpire wrote:Total and predictable hysterical over reaction just as predicted.

The media in Britain really need to be wound in. They sensationalise everything and precipitate chaos for no reason.

Same with house prices. Ultimately they are responsible for the financial crisis and then they created the propaganda war against banks to cover their arses.

They do the same thing to British sporting teams.

Blame it all on history.  The BBC are now duty bound, and petrified with fear bound, to talk up even a shower of drizzle into a full blown Storm of the Century - and all because of one man.............. a weather man called Michael Fish, who misread a genuine Storm of the Century as nothing more than a shower of dizzle many moons ago.

The BBC have been terrified of downplaying anything ever since.  Thus when the first flakes of slush fall from the winter skies this winter, they'll be telling you to avoid the motorways at all costs as there will be 0.000065 milimeters of snow lying on them.

Glorious Empire you obviously don't feel the same way as Hansen.

There aren't many posters are obsessed with England as yourself. Getting a little bit worried that you might lose again?

beshocked wrote:Glorious Empire you obviously don't feel the same way as Hansen.

There aren't many posters are obsessed with England as yourself. Getting a little bit worried that you might lose again?

It's baby brother syndrome, trying his hardest for the smallest clutch of attention.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Well it's a bright sunny day, light winds. Few branches off trees, but nothing major. Perfect sailing day in London actually. Reminds me of an autumnal Wellington morning.

For some reason I'm the only one who's showed up for work. Interesting.

You'll be pot washing as well as pulling today then!

Gloriuosly Humble. wrote:Total and predictable hysterical over reaction just as predicted.

The media in Britain really need to be wound in. They sensationalise everything and precipitate chaos for no reason.


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Now if there was ever a case of the pot calling the kettle black, then this would be it.

Id never judge an appliance on the basis of its colour. Black or otherwise.

To be fair to Hansen I can understand his comments. As GE says the media seem to imagine England as world beaters and supermen.

I find it embarrassing and I'm sure Johnny foreigner finds it amusing and annoying. It is also probably largely responsible for us being labelled arrogant.

English teams are built up to be knocked over. I always remember some clown reporter asking BOD about how terrified he is about facing Bananaman a few years ago. BOD must have been laughing inside...

MotelMoneyMurderMadness wrote:To be fair to Hansen I can understand his comments. As GE says the media seem to imagine England as world beaters and supermen.

I find it embarrassing and I'm sure Johnny foreigner finds it amusing and annoying. It is also probably largely responsible for us being labelled arrogant.

English teams are built up to be knocked over. I always remember some clown reporter asking BOD about how terrified he is about facing Bananaman a few years ago. BOD must have been laughing inside...

 

Face palm? Did I say something silly?

MotelMoneyMurderMadness wrote:To be fair to Hansen I can understand his comments. As GE says the media seem to imagine England as world beaters and supermen.

I find it embarrassing and I'm sure Johnny foreigner finds it amusing and annoying. It is also probably largely responsible for us being labelled arrogant.

English teams are built up to be knocked over. I always remember some clown reporter asking BOD about how terrified he is about facing Bananaman a few years ago. BOD must have been laughing inside...

Great point, well made.

Is it any surprise that the Irish media will ask questions on the Irish team, the English media will ask questions on the English team and the French media will ask whether or not Basteraud has been forgiven in NZ yet?

I don't think its the media building up England or anyone else. Journalists have a mandate to report for their readership. Its a business.

Do AP matches get regularly reported in the NZ herald? I assume not as it holds little interest to their readers... not because they do or don't rate the competition.

fa0019 wrote:Is it any surprise that the Irish media will ask questions on the Irish team, the English media will ask questions on the English team and the French media will ask whether or not Basteraud has been forgiven in NZ yet?

I don't think its the media building up England or anyone else. Journalists have a mandate to report for their readership. Its a business.

Do AP matches get regularly reported in the NZ herald? I assume not as it holds little interest to their readers... not because they do or don't rate the competition.

Exactly right. Anyone reading press reports and punditry which doesn't bear in mind this essential fact, needs to take a step back and see the wider context. It's far from just the English press who indulge in hyperbole and the like. Indeed, there are plenty of instances of English journalists taking a perverse delight in the demise of some English sporting campaigns.

Further, the press, in some small way forms part of the drama of such occasions. Are we all to be hamstrung by industrial strength 'impartiality'? Who actually wants to continually read statements which are little more than regurgitation of 'facts' such as they may seem to be at the time?!

Can we all just take note here that although GE hasn't credited the source of his quote it can be read here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11147233

An interview with the New Zealand Herald.

OMG. why is there even a thread concerning an interview with the AB coach in NZ?

GE thats really poor and disingenuous of you not to even put the source of the quotation. Wasting everyone's time.

Maybe we should ask the mods to restrict your ability to create new threads until you start doing so in a mature manner?

quinsforever wrote:OMG. why is there even a thread concerning an interview with the AB coach in NZ?

GE thats really poor and disingenuous of you not to even put the source of the quotation. Wasting everyone's time.

Maybe we should ask the mods to restrict your ability to create new threads until you start doing so in a mature manner?

I think it's important for those posters seizing on this as being an a-typical example of an English press being arrogant/over-the-top to be in possession of all of the facts prior to jumping on any bandwagons.

Of course we could all just be puerile about subjects up for debate.

Did I ever make any claim it was a quote from an interview with the English press? That's not at all the point I was making. If you re-read my original post and actually consider it rather than leaping in all anxious and worked up with prejudice.

Ah so its pesky Kiwi journos upto mischief and sending me off on a rant. Apologies to the men and women of the English media then.

Of course to say its an interview "with the NZ herald" is rather naiive. It's an interview with Patrick Mckendry.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Did I ever make any claim it was a quote from an interview with the English press? That's not at all the point I was making. If you re-read my original post and actually consider it rather than leaping in all anxious and worked up with prejudice.

Come come now young man you are only serving to fulfil your own prejudice and may I say arrogance with this post. My post wasn't addressed to you, it referred to your rather elementary lack of crediting but was not in response to your original premise. Whatever that may have been.

"England are not even on my mind at the moment" - Meaning:  NZ Coach with too much to think about right now

"England are not even on my mind" - Meaning:  Insulting NZ Coach with seasonal amnesia.

"England are not even." - Meaning:  NZ Coach with a Gambling Problem.

"England are not" - Meaning:  Confident NZ Coach.

"England are." - Meaning:  Pessimistic NZ Coach.

"England." - Meaning: History Channel

Surprising how many takes you can do on one sentence.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Of course to say its an interview "with the NZ herald" is rather naiive. It's an interview with Patrick Mckendry.

In what sense naiive?