Biarritz Olympique - WRL Season 5

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Starting team

Hookers

Kevin Mealamu (NZL)
Benoit August (FRA)

Props

LH/TH Fabien Barcella (FRA)
TH/LH Owen Franks (NZL)
TH Campbell Johnstone (NZL)
TH Eduard Coeztee (RSA)

Locks

Manuel Carriza (ARG)
Jerome Thion (FRA)
Patricio Albacete (ARG)

Back Row

Sam Warburton (WAL)
Sergio Parisse (ITA)
Juan Smith (RSA)
Talalelei Gray (AUS)

Half backs

Ruan Pienaar (RSA)
Kahn Fotuali (SAM)
Jean-Pascal Barraque (FRA)
Jonny Sexton (IRL)

Centers

Sonny Bill Williams (NZL)
Robbie Freaun (NZL)
Marcelo Bosch (ARG)

Wings

Takudzwa Ngwenya (USA)
George North (WAL)
Tommy Bowe (IRL)
Alesana Tuilagi (SAM)

Full Back

Iain Balshaw (ENG)

Utility Backs


Released from Squad-

Sorry mate can't see anything except maybe McCaw?

Don't see a huge difference
Whitelock > Lawes
Palmer > Davies.
Slightly bigger gap at bottom but only slightly

Don't do sub gains to lose in lineup I've said it for ages.

evening chap . . . .

Roberts + Carriza
=
Traille + R Jones

not for me that one mate.

if you want to do a deal for Wilkison I am listening.
Could include Butch James in return . . .

lol poor ngwenya . . . he was injured for a bit. have seen him play this season but he hasnt hit the form he had last season.

the new aussie full back/winger looks good petty? and Balshaw has been good again but the main event is the new n8 Lakafia - he's awesome!

Im still quite keen on it, there are gains for both, just would be really sad to lose Kahui/halfpenny, like those guys a lot and no one likes kirchner. Can't commit to a deal just yet, but i wont sell either of my two without coming back to you first. Thats the best i can do atm.

Also, i like skrela and gives me the back up at 10 i need, but looking at the top teams, no one has top top quality at 10 and other key positions, so makes me think it would just be easy to save 10m to heal evans if the unthinkable happened (again, missed games 1-4!)

depends what you call not alot for wilkinson.

am keeping jones for now as he covers both LK and back row mate

Williams + Jenkins + Roberts
=
Guilford + Woodcock + Davies

Lose out twice, I know Jenkins and Woodcock don't have much between them, but the fact Woodcock came higher in the ratings im keeping him.

Don't want Williams, prefer Guildford and im happy with that coup.

Jenkins & De Villiers
4
Woodcock & Donald

Is the only thing I would do mate, sorry.

Wilko + Williams + Rees + Roberts
=
Slade + Habana + Hartley + Traille
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Not too bad mate still doesn't float my boat will leave it

yeah mate fair enough . . .

would like Wilko but htink now that with Slade, James & Contepomi & even Traille I think I might have the area covered, it's just I like the guy

Jenkins + Rees + De Villiers + Lobbe + Bonnaire
=
Woodcock + Mealamu + Steyn + McCalman + Haskell

Woodcock better than Jenkins
Mealamu better than Rees
Steyn covers many options even though De Villiers would be involved
Lobbe over McCalman
Haskell and Bonnaire no difference between them

Not quite fluxy keep trying if you must.

Wilkinson & bit o cash
for
James & Traille/strettle/abendanon maybe

inquiry?

er no bit o cash my way lol . . .

so it would have to be Slade.

so something like

Slade & Traille
for
Wilkinson & cash/roberts?

inquiry only - I am still after him as I really like him! but it's awkward for both of us to find a deal that suits me thinks . . .

Stop calling me blogs please.

Who would do a deal when they aren't getting equal gains back, you get 3 to 2 in your favour something im not going to do, because I lose out too much other people in my shoes wouldn't do it either because they will be losing too much. You need two gains yourself and two gains for me or nothing at all fluxy.

Wilko + Williams + Rees + Roberts
=
Slade + Habana + Hartley + Traille
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I am sure you would much prefer the above deal lol

nah think will leave it until maybe I have some better bargaining chips etc . . . I am just being picky - I think Slade/James/Contepomi should be good enough for now

But you added five players, meaning one of us was going to gain more than the other, im not keen on Rees anyway so he is a no.

Cut it down to two or keep it at four, three or five just isn't right.

Oh yeah I did say they were on the same level , still not keen on Rees though I prefer my New Zealand pair.

Sorry lad

Masaga + 8m
4
Skrela?

clermont have masaga, im caretaking them as rowley has left.....again

saw your deal, thought i had replied, dont want to lose nallet. only want to lose one of halfpenny/kahui really

not having much luck with dealings atm!

So

Lawes + Kirchner + Lobbe + Ansbro
4
Thion + Halfpenny + Waldrom + Kahui

two big gains each?

Well if Lobbe deal falls through let me know and i would consider palmer instead

De Villiers & Jenkins
4
Donald & Woodcock & 5m

Thanks

Well has to be Lambie mate, he can play fly-half, centre or full-back.

Also have Davies to go with Roberts?

De Villiers & Jenkins
4
Davies & Woodcock & 5m

?

any news on your lobbe deal?

Well it made sense for a Davies and Roberts partnership.

What about doing Roberts instead of De Villiers for Davies or Donald plus the rest?

Roberts & Jenkins
4
Davies & Woodcock

Nevermind, you have potential centres that I could get, that four way deal isn't good enough.

I did say it was good but I don't want the Rees bit you need to have a different player but im reluctant to sell some of my players for your players, because I have done well to get the likes of Hook, Steyn and Guildford and I don't want to lose them.

Jenkins & Lobbe & Steyn & Rees
4
Woodcock & McCalman & De Villiers & Mealamu

It was that wasn't it?

Lobbe or not to Lobbe?

Not really sure where we are with dealings, but coming to terms with the thought of losing some players i really like for some starting gains

Palmer/Lobbe + Ansbro
4
Thion/Waldrom + Kahui

Thoughts? Preference would be on Lobbe, lets you keep your combo as well

3.04 in the morning your keen.

Jenkins & Lobbe & Steyn & Rees
4
Woodcock & McCalman & De Villiers & Mealamu

It needs slight changes like I said, not keen on Rees for Mealamu.

Just cut it down to the three, or add Heymans or Kirchner for Evans?

There isn't much between Rees and Mealamu but I prefer a New Zealand player in my front three, the rest is ok but I need a full-back replacement.

Heymans or Kirchner for Evans would be it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

no thoughts?

So...is this ok?

Halfpenny + Waldrom + Kahui + Parr
4
Kirchner + Lobbe + Ansbro + Ayerza

maybe?

think i might be losing both kahui and halfpenny, so if you want to propose the bid you after, do so mate. Said i would come back to you before selling them.

Skrela + Lobbe + Roberts + Jenkins
=
Lambie + McCalman + Steyn + Woodcock

Don't like Skrela at all, still don't have a full-back replacement there do I.

yeah its pretty good to be honest, sorry to go on like a broken record, but no lobbe then? and are you talking about max evans?

Jenkins & Lobbe & De Villiers & Kirchner
4
Woodcock & McCalman & Steyn & Evans

I would do that but I need to put it on hold, I really need to try and get a fly-half first. Lambie or Donald have to go from me.

Sorry I will do it though.

Jenkins & Lobbe & De Villiers & Kirchner
4
Woodcock & McCalman & Steyn & Evans

Confirm then I don't have to be on 24/7 aswell you know

Jenkins & Lobbe & Steyn & Rees
4
Woodcock & McCalman & De Villiers & Mealamu

It was that, then you said yes it was but change Kirchner 4 Evans instead of Rees 4 Mealamu.

De Villiers is mine you didn't state you said what about Roberts, I said no keep it like that I said that's the deal and you said yes, you wanted me to confirm so I did.

I was under pressure haha.

You said the deal was fine with De Villiers in it not once not twice but at least three teams, you did say Roberts but I said no keep it like that, you said ok and pushed me to confirm.

You have tried to screw me with Roberts, nope not happening Jean De Villiers is mine.

Thanks for dealing.

Jenkins & Lobbe & De Villiers & Kirchner
4
Woodcock & McCalman & Steyn & Evans

Have you actually looked at that deal, where is Mealamu for Rees in that?

You agreed to take that bit out, yet you add Mealamu to your team

Your so confused mate, and I don't actually believe you read properly, you have screwed yourself over big time, you just confirmed it on the confirmation page with the above players in it.

Win win for me, should take proper notice next time fluxy.

Happy days

No that isn't fair, you know that is wrong and you should change your side.

We agreed on that

Jenkins & Lobbe & De Villiers & Kirchner
4
Woodcock & McCalman & Steyn & Evans

And it is staying like that.

i see a bigger picture mate don't worry - am about to loose bekker in return for some backs, move jones to LK back up and easter takes jones place in teh back row . . . tah dah

Nope, you know what you did.

Jenkins & Lobbe & De Villiers & Kirchner
4
Woodcock & McCalman & Steyn & Evans

That is what you said De Villiers not Roberts, you said it's ok to change Mealamu 4 Rees to Kirchner 4 Evans.

You are basically calling me a liar when it's in black and white all over our two pages.

I wipe my hands clean, im keeping Mealamu mate that was the deal and im not changing it he can play for two teams if all I care.

it's got to be blogs - sounds sooo like him the whinging get . . . .

well hoping to have easter on teh bench hari at 8 -

Hari has been playing flanker for Biarritz now for a while since Lakafia has stormed onto the scene!! Hari has been playing just as well - no difference! - flanker or 8 he's top draw.

Im not giving up you know what you did just accept it.

Roberts my backside, Rees 4 Mealamu was changed to Kirchner 4 Evans and you know that.

I have done nothing wrong, you are twisting things.

Umm........what the hell happened!?!?

Is your deal with Toulon staying or not? Not wanting to cause any trouble, too much as it is, but just thinking about our prospective deals, thats all.

Maybe worth looking at it tomorrow, once all this settled down?

It's been stressful, would you be able to consider our offer with ease and no hitches?
It'd have to be;

Lawes + Palmer + Ayerza + Ansbro + Evans
=
Nallet + Thion + Parr + Kahui + Halfpenny

----

Lawes + Palmer + Ayerza + Ansbro + Heymans
=
Nallet + Thion + Parr + Kahui + Halfpenny


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I'd be very keen to avoid stress and keep it all above aboard! Thats why havn't rushed into anything.

There
are two different deals now though, the top one on the predictions
pages, the second on my page at 9.54. Want to tidy it all up to avoid
confusion? My preference would be for Heymans and Evans.

The only
thing holding it up my end is that im not sure how highly rated the
english combo are. Ratings shows Nallet third as an enforcer and around
7th ish, boric around 15th ish. Your two are in between my two in
ratings, so a bit tricky. Just wanting to canvas opinion, would be
really sad to lose Nallet! one of my fav signings!

I sincerely apologize fluxy for our misunderstanding I just don't want to get on the wrong side of anybody, I have done well so far but you knew the score but still mixed things up.

You know I clearly made a mistake, and it shouldn't of blew out of proportion like it did.

Im sorry and just let's move on from this, if you still want the deal I meant to have confirmed which we agreed on just change Evans and Rees and put them back in your side and take Kirchner and Mealamu out.

Or we can cancel the whole thing which would then make our fuse really silly, sad and stupid, not just for me who did much of the talking but for you aswell.

Sorry again hope we can cross a line to this.

Ok thank you.

Sorry for one of the biggest mistakes you could make on this game, but you knew we agreed on different and that I didn't want Rees at all.

Thanks for this, and hope we can deal again soon in a months time.

the ayerza part was pretty important to me mate, wanted better prop back up for a week or so now.