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Post by bazalicous Thu 11 Apr 2013, 10:28 pm

Of all the players playing in the world right now who would be your starting XV??

Mine is as follows...

15.Israel Dagg
14.Brian Habana
13.BOD
12.Conrad Smith
11.Julien Savea
10.Dan Carter
9.Will Genia
1.Cian Healy
2.Bismarc Du Plessis
3.Adam Jones
4.Bakkes Botha
5.Paul O'Connell
6.Sean O'Brien
7.Richie McCaw
8.Louis Picamoles


16.Adrian Strauss
17.Tony Woodcock
18.Carl Hayman
19.Sam Whitelock
20.Kieran Read
21.Fourie Du Preez
22.Johnny Sexton
23.Hosea Gear


Quite bias towards the irish lads i know, and for that i apologise, green tinted glasses!!



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Post by theslosty Thu 11 Apr 2013, 10:38 pm

I would like to think that I am not biased as such, I am just rather unaware of rugby outside this island.

15. Dagg
14. Habana
13. Smith
12. Fofana
11. Savea
10. Carter
9. ...Genia? Bit uninformed here
8. Read -very tough call
7. McCaw
6. SOB??? Tbh I can't think of a player that close to him when he is on form, maybe Lobbe, Aussie blindside?
5. Whitelock
4. Etzebeth
3. Nicolas Mas
2. Du Plessis
1. Healy
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Post by welshboii15 Thu 11 Apr 2013, 10:47 pm

15- Dagg
14- O'Connor
13- Conrad smith
12- fofana
11- saves
10- Dan carter
9- genia

1- the beast
2- schalk brits
3- Adam Jones
4- Paul O'Connell
5- sam whitelock
6- pocock
7- McCaw
8- parisse


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Post by welshboii15 Thu 11 Apr 2013, 10:48 pm

Sevea not save haha

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Post by king_carlos Thu 11 Apr 2013, 10:58 pm

1.Healy
2.Du Plessis
3.Jones
4.Etzebeth
5.O'Connell
6.O'Brien - some may question it but I rate him very highly!
7.McCaw
8.Read

9.Genia
10.Carter

11.Savea
12.Nonu
13.Smith
14.O'Connor - Habana close behind
15.Dagg

16.Best 17.Woodcock 18.Franks 19.Whitelock 20.Parisse 21.Smith 22.Cruden 23.Halfpenny

Players who narrowly miss out - Hayman, Mas, Ferris (due to injury), Lobbe, Picamoles, Fotuali'i, Nick Evans, BOD, Bowe

Incidentally I think it sums up why NZ's backs are such a potent attacking force when there is a decent argument that the three best 10's in the world are all from NZ!

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Post by Taylorman Thu 11 Apr 2013, 11:18 pm

king_carlos wrote:
Incidentally I think it sums up why NZ's backs are such a potent attacking force when there is a decent argument that the three best 10's in the world are all from NZ!

I'm now officially a King Carlos fan! king

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Post by Chjw131 Thu 11 Apr 2013, 11:33 pm

Out of everyone right now forgetting injury:

1. T Domingo
2. B Du Plessis
3. D Cole
4. B Botha
5. N Sharpe
6. W Alberts
7. R McCaw
8. L Piccamoles

9. W Genia
10. A Cruden
11. JP Pietersen
12. W Fofana
13. C Smith
14. B Hadana
15. I Dagg

16. A Strauss 17. A Sheridan 18. A Jones 19. I Evans 20. J Kaino 21. M Para 22. D Carter 23. J O'Connor

All highly subjective of course. SR seems to be a bit under catered for these days with some good guys coming through. Cruden deserves to get one over on Carter at least once!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:02 am

1. Healy 2. Du Plessis 3. Mas
4. POC 5. Etzebeth
6. Burger 7. SOB 8. Picamoles
9. Genia 10. Lambie
12. Fofana 13. Fourie
11. Habana 14. Ioane 15. Beale

16. A Jones 17. The Beast 18. Best 19. Ryan Jones 20. Tipuric
21. Parra 22. Cooper 23. JP Pietersen

That team to play New Zealand.

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Post by Biltong Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:04 am

Nice side Kia (he winks as he walks past)
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Post by GunsGerms Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:18 am

Think from SA I'd pick Goosen over Lambie if i had the choice though Lambie is an exciting player and ferocious tackler.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:22 am

Goosen is one for the future GG for sure but hope Lambie is persisted with by Meyer this season due to Goosen's injury. I just think the little fella needs to be eased more into top flight rugby much like Cruden. When he puts in consistent performances with the Cheetahs, then by all means select him for the Boks but put a young man too early into test rugby in such a key position and you play a risky game with his long term prospects.

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Post by rodders Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:23 am

1. Healy 2. Du Plessis 3. Afoa
4. POC 5. Hines
6. Warburton 7. McCaw 8. Parisse
9. Pienaar 10. Carter
12. Roberts 13. Smith
11. North 14. Pieterson 15. Dagg/Halfpenny
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Post by GunsGerms Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:28 am

15. Beale
14. Bowe
13. Smith
12. Fofana
11. Habana
10. Carter
9. Genia - not much choice here. Dont think Genia is as good as many think.
8. Picamoles
7. McCaw
6. Ferris
5. Dont know enough about Ezebeth. He was very dirty v Ireland though.
4. POC
3. Cole
2. DuPlessis
1. Healy

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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:34 am

A fit Cory Jane would be on the wing for me.

I like the look of Goosen and love that he gets to play with the Cheetahs. But it seems his confidence is rather shaky at test level. Let's hope he becomes more comfortable as I'd love to see a Bok 10 with a really attacking running mindset. I like Lambie a lot too.

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Post by Taylorman Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:37 am

Goosens out injured again as well. Fell while at goalkicking practice...Lambie this year by the looks.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:52 am

As it's a dream team, I think there's some flexibility as to how you interpret who is playing right now. Depending on the time zone, it could be slim pickings...

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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 12:04 pm

SBW's a shoo-in then

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 12:57 pm

What he's playing at nobody knows disney.. apart from his agent.

Wish we had an emoticon with an index finger pointing to the mouth to insert. This is the closest I could find. Headscratch

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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 1:07 pm

He just dismantled the Bulldogs in the most professional f**k off you can get.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 1:13 pm

Laugh I mean it's difficult to know what he's playing :boxing, league, union.

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Apr 2013, 1:46 pm

I'll tell you what hes playing:
$$$$
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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Apr 2013, 1:49 pm

Sonny's motto, in the words of the poet Clifford "TI" Harris is: Peso, Euro, Yen ah ha, I'm paid never gonna be broke again.
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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 1:52 pm

In his defence he took a hell of a pay cut to join the All Blacks.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 1:55 pm

But how much is he playing with? He's testing the limits and given his opportunities beyond sport, I can see why he's trying to maximise those opportunities now.

Maybe that's because I see problems for us in 2015 at 12 and 6 and still hold out hope that Kaino and SBW can fill those voids for us then.

Maybe it's because I see myself in his position and think doing what he's doing would be a lot more lucrative and probably enjoyable than say what Richie McCaw has done in his career.

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Apr 2013, 1:59 pm

True, but I think he recouped a bit, being the WBA imternational heavyweight champion...

No criticism on him though, other than the Bulldog debacle, he has left every place of employment on cordial terms. And he does seem to improve the teams he is on.
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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 1:59 pm

He reminds me of a big kid. I wanna give everything a go. You encourage kids to do that and to have fun but then when it happens in the big bucks world of professional sport you slag him off. He has to demand big coin as he's only signing one year contracts so if he gets a career ending injury he's screwed. But I reckon good on him. Sometimes the status quo needs to be challenged.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:09 pm

disneychilly wrote:In his defence he took a hell of a pay cut to join the All Blacks.

Well Toulon is probably the richest club in the world so it was either stay there forever or take a pay cut.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:10 pm

He's certainly not going to die of curiosity wondering what might have been. We all admire people like McCaw who put loyalty first but someone with that much all-round sporting talent and you can't help but feel this guy is taking the p. By no means anybody of note as a boxer but it takes courage to give it a go and risk ridicule when you're noted for something else. Jordan tried baseball and came back to basketball but he gave it a go. Is that any different to somebody who stays too long in any given sport making it difficult to remember why he made a name for himself in that sport.

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:13 pm

Like I said Disney, nothing against him, he has a Super Rugby medal, a boxing world championship, a world cup medal, NRL medal, ITM medal. The man has the midas touch
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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:17 pm

Imagine if he had mad football skills-seriously imagine him joining THAT circus!

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:21 pm

I dont think anyone would want him! Imagine Real offering a one year deal worth £8m, allowing him to fight twice a year! Madridistas might just torch Florentino Perez's house.
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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:28 pm

The shirt sales and publicity though-he'll be giving the old beef torpedo to a couple of X Factor wannabes and actresses, the Sun would love it lol.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:31 pm

I'd love Real to sign him!

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Post by Biltong Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:34 pm

My dream team.

Os du Randt
Bismarck du Plessis
Adrian Garvey
Frik du Preez
Victor Matfield
Schalk Burger
Juan Smit
Morne du Plessis
Divan Serfontein
Henry Honeyball
Joggie Jansen
Danie Gerber
Bryan Habana
JP Pietersen
Andre Joubert
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:45 pm

Doesn't quite fit the OP criteria Biltong unless some of those older players are playing in your head still. That said, a great match up.

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Post by Biltong Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:47 pm

Well it is a dream team, if we could travel in time I would put them all together at the hight of thei careers.

As for the OP's dream team , yeah, not mine.
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:53 pm

I mean in the OP Of all the players playing in the world right now who would be your starting XV.

If it's a dream team with no restrictions, I'd be starting at 10 and Mila Cunis would be at halfback. Very Happy

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:54 pm

Or better still I'd be 4 and Miley Cunis at hooker. Whistle

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:55 pm

Biltong wrote:Well it is a dream team, if we could travel in time I would put them all together at the hight of thei careers.

As for the OP's dream team , yeah, not mine.

I remember Andre Joubert lighting up the '95 WC I think it was with his pinpoint, rangy torpedo kicks but was he really that good?


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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:55 pm

Ha that's cause you're Atletico isn't that right Kia?

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Post by 123456789 Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:56 pm

15. Dagg
14. Bowe
13. Bennett
12. SBW
11. Savea
10. Carter
9. Genia
8. Parisse
7. Pocock
6. McCaw
5. Gray
4. Etzebeth
3. Jones
2. Du Plessis
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Post by disneychilly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:56 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:I mean in the OP Of all the players playing in the world right now who would be your starting XV.

If it's a dream team with no restrictions, I'd be starting at 10 and Mila Cunis would be at halfback. Very Happy

To be honest I'd rather be inside Cunis so she can play 10 and myself 9.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:58 pm

We'd all rather be inside Cunis. But kindly get the f out of my dream. kiss

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:58 pm

disneychilly wrote:
kiakahaaotearoa wrote:I mean in the OP Of all the players playing in the world right now who would be your starting XV.

If it's a dream team with no restrictions, I'd be starting at 10 and Mila Cunis would be at halfback. Very Happy

To be honest I'd rather be inside Cunis so she can play 10 and myself 9.

Eh if Kunis was playing Id put her in at prop and Id play second row so I could give her a guilt free reach around in the scrum.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:59 pm

disneychilly wrote:Ha that's cause you're Atletico isn't that right Kia?

Yes. We're going to win the King's Cup this year and get into the Champions next season. Only 50 euros more on a 225 season ticket to get Champions matches as well. You can't buy a beer in the Bernabeu for that...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:00 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Or better still I'd be 4 and Miley Cunis at hooker. Whistle

Beat you to it GG. Get the f out of my dream as well. It's like a meat market in this dream team. boxing

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:03 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:
disneychilly wrote:Ha that's cause you're Atletico isn't that right Kia?

Yes. We're going to win the King's Cup this year and get into the Champions next season. Only 50 euros more on a 225 season ticket to get Champions matches as well. You can't buy a beer in the Bernabeu for that...

You should go to Rayo matches instead. Its like being at the zoo except inside the animal enclosures.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:14 pm

I've been mate. The stadium's a disgrace but the fans are great entertainment value. They're actually doing quite well this season. They were as high as fourth.

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Post by Biltong Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:15 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
Biltong wrote:Well it is a dream team, if we could travel in time I would put them all together at the hight of thei careers.

As for the OP's dream team , yeah, not mine.

I remember Andre Joubert lighting up the '95 WC I think it was with his pinpoint, rangy torpedo kicks but was he really that good?
he was brilliant on joining the line in attack.
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Post by Biltong Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:17 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:I mean in the OP Of all the players playing in the world right now who would be your starting XV.

If it's a dream team with no restrictions, I'd be starting at 10 and Mila Cunis would be at halfback. Very Happy

I'll admit to dreaming about Mila Cunis, but not overseas rugby players. Whistle
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