Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC

by **ADMIN** Mon 20 Feb - 22:42

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Name: Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC
Stadium: Hobbiton Valley Stadium
Capacity: 100,000 (if they are under 5ft tall)

Team sheet

Goalkeepers
David De Gea GK
Diego Alves GK

Defenders
Micah Richards RB/CB
Dominico Criscito LB/CB
Sebastian Coates CB
Georgio Chiellini CB/LB
Vincent Kompany CB
Ashley Cole LB
Ryan Bertrand LB
Maurico Isla RB/LB/CB/RM/RW/CM
Alexander Buttner LB

Midfielders
Esteban Cambiasso DM/CM
Santi Cazorla RM/LM
Nigel De Jong DM
Yann M'Vila DM/CM
Yaya Toure DM/CM/AM
Xavi CM

Strikers/Wingers
Pablo Osvaldo ST
Gonzalo Higuain ST
Sebastian Giovinco ST/LW
Isaac Cuenca RW/LW
Alexis Sanchez RW/LW
Angelo Henriquez ST/LW/RW
Sortiris Ninis LW/ST/RW

Remaining budget: 10.3m

Transfers out

Ever Banega to Bull
Demba Ba to Ollyrules
Craig Bellamy to Ollyrules for 7m
Daniel Sturridge + Jack Rodwell to Twist for 25m + PX
Adam Johnson to Ollyrules
Andy Polo to Marky £3m
Nene to Twist for PX
Nolito to Marky for 11m
Lucas to Olly for PX & 2m
Eduardo Vargas 13m to lawyers
Maxwell 6.5m to lawyers
Aaron Lennon PX to Marky
Andre Schurrle PX to Marky
Robinho 21m to lawyers
Alex to Russell
Wilson Palacios £8m to lawyers
Ronaldinho PX to Marky
Toni Kroos 26m to Marky
Coutinho - £7.5m
Aaron Ramsey - £11.5m
Ezequiel Garay - £12.5m
Bas Dost - 8m
Thiago Motta - 10m to Bull
Christian Fuchs - 5m to Marky
Demba Cisse to Olly - 5m + PX
Gotze + Ba + 16m to Marky
Lucas Piazon to lawyers 8m
Subotic to Olly 18.5m
VDW to Olly
Thiago Alcantara - £21m to lawyers
VDV + Abate to Olly
Andre Ayew & Granit Xhaka to lawyers 25m

Transfers in

Craig Bellamy ST 4
Demba Ba ST 13.5
Diego Alves GK 6.7
Esteban Cambiasso MI 15
Maxwell DE 5.3
Nene MI 11
Sebastian Coates DE 4.4
Aaron Lennon 15.1m
Alex £10.1m
Andy Polo 0.5m
David De Gea 15.6m
Ever Banega 11.8m
Ezekiel Garay 12.1m
Jack Rodwell 18.1m
Mario Gotze 26.5m
Mats Hummels 23.5m
Ronaldinho 6.7m
Ignazio Abate from Bull
Daniel Sturridge & 5m from Olly
Demba Cisse £12m
Adam Johnson from Twist PX
Eduardo Vargas from Twist PX
Lucas Leiva from Ollyrules for 2m & PX
Ashley Cole 15m
Thiago Motta 13m
Nolito & VDW from Twist for PX & 100k
Andre Schurrle from Leverkusen
Aaron Ramsey & Coutinho from Olly
Santi Cazorla 17.5m
Neven Subotic 16m
Robinho PX from Marky
Wilson Palacios, Lucas Piazon and 8m from Marky for PX
Andre Ayew 12.5m
Bas Dost 7m
Bryan Oviedo 0.5m
Toni Kroos 23m + Alex from Russell
Christian Fuchs 9m from OTW
Granit Xhaka PX from Marky
Ryan Betrand from Olly 3m
Thiago Alcantara 17.5m
Nigel De Jong 15m
Yaya Toure 31m
Georgio Chiellini 21m
Giovinco 11m
Isaac Cuenca 3.91 from OTW
Demba Ba + VDV from Olly
Gonzalo Higuain from Marky PX
Nemanja Vidic 22.5m
Micah Richards from Olly PX + 6m
Isla and Lucas Moura from Olly
Javier Pastore from PSG 25.5m
David Villa from Barca 24.5m
Alexander Buttner 2.3m
Angelo Henriquez 500k

by Gregers Mon 3 Sep - 14:24

Fair enough

However I'd still love to get Giovinco off you!

by Bull Mon 3 Sep - 17:03

if your selling hummles i would be very interested

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 4 Sep - 9:49

No thank you. If you want Hulk I would want Cazorla included in the deal

by FIFA Diva Tue 4 Sep - 10:32

I don't think I would be improving really sorry.

by FIFA Diva Tue 4 Sep - 11:17

The players you've offered me won't really make my side.

You've got a collection of world class strikers give me one of them.

Higuian plus Giovinco plus Chiellini for Mata
ENQ

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 4 Sep - 11:59

Hulk + Cisse
for
Higuain + Moura + Cash
ENQ

by sodhat Tue 4 Sep - 11:59

Sorry mate, I want to keep Biscuits and his sweet short passing

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 4 Sep - 12:04

Well Pablo Hernandez is my only Spanish player. Can we include him in a deal for Moura?

by **Afro** Tue 4 Sep - 12:05

Do you want to buy Mbia from me? He went to Spain on his holidays

by **Afro** Tue 4 Sep - 12:05

ENQ for now mind

by sodhat Tue 4 Sep - 12:37

No thanks mate, I prefer both my two at the moment.

by Marky Tue 4 Sep - 12:54

Yaya Toure = Schweinsteiger
ENQ

Just imagine Xavi and Schweinsteiger together... Plus I think Yaya fits my side better, I see it as a win win deal but it depends if you rate Schweinsteiger or not.

EDIT: would have to be after this week as Yaya is injured for you, and I'm already two CM's down!

by Gregers Tue 4 Sep - 12:58

Bertrand, is he available for trade?

by The Special Juan Tue 4 Sep - 13:02

I took one look at the size of that and I'm saying no immediately. I don't do anything near that size.

by The Special Juan Tue 4 Sep - 13:11

And no, you're not getting my Spanish players. I have a Spanish thing going on too here.

by Marky Tue 4 Sep - 13:11

I never claimed Bastian was Spanish Wink

I don't think there's very much wrong with Schweinsteiger's rep, seeing as he's a Premier League winner and part of my midfield that won last week, with feedback claiming my centre midfield was stronger than Hangover's.

(Sighing) What would it take to do Schweinsteiger = Yaya Toure after this gameweek?

by Gregers Tue 4 Sep - 13:31

My only spaniad is Bojan... so him for Yaya Whistle

by nadeem2099 Tue 4 Sep - 16:32

Thats a good offer but I'd want some money on top aswell. 5mill would be ok.

by **Afro** Tue 4 Sep - 16:50

If you do part with Higuain, then anything I could offer?

by nadeem2099 Tue 4 Sep - 19:55

no thank you. Those 2 homeboys are the heart and blood of my team. They are 1 club men like Gerrard and Scholes and are very loyal.

by Marky Tue 4 Sep - 20:31

Come on, let's get a Yaya = Bastian deal sorted. Yaya wants to hook up with his Man City pals, and Bastian wants to play for your Galacticos.

by **Afro** Tue 4 Sep - 20:36

Thanks. I actually think that had I somehow snuck promotion, I would have competed with you boys in the Prem.

Still interested in Higuain though. You should never rest on your laurels.

by FIFA Diva Wed 5 Sep - 12:52

No deal sorry.

De Jong been sold and replaced by Garcia.

Higuain is not that good for me to drop Huntelaar.

by FIFA Diva Wed 5 Sep - 13:09

Mata plus Garcia
Higuain plus Cazorla
ENQ

by Gregers Wed 5 Sep - 13:13

Bertrand and Richards
For
Muniesa and x?

by FIFA Diva Wed 5 Sep - 13:18

No thanks if I can't get a good player in return no point me getting murked for free.

De Rossi no thank you we had a bust up just before he left me in the Furious league. Things ain't the same he deleted me of Facebook because I tweeted a picture of him in a Lazio shirt.

by FIFA Diva Fri 7 Sep - 10:36

Garcia plus Mata for Cambiasso plus Higuain plus Cazorla
ENQ

by Marky Tue 11 Sep - 0:03

Kompany is not for sale.

But hypothetically, if the deal was;

Kompany + Osvaldo + Aquilani
=
Hummels + Higuain + Yaya Toure

I'd take the deal.

Kompany is one of the best CB's in the league (if not the best) so it'd take something pretty spectacular to make me let him go.

by TwisT Tue 11 Sep - 0:19

I am interested in Hummels myself

by **Afro** Tue 11 Sep - 0:22

Whereas I would like to relieve you of Ashley Cole and/or Hummels

by Marky Tue 11 Sep - 0:23

I'm not interested in Criscito, I have Kolarov who would be ahead of him, and it's not worth losing Kompany to get extra strength in depth at LB/LWB.

I'd want Hummels and Yaya Toure in any deal, genuinely;

Hummels + Yaya Toure + Higuain or Villa
=
Kompany + Aquilani + Osvaldo
ENQ

As i've said already, if he's going it would have to be spectacular.

by **Afro** Tue 11 Sep - 0:26

Jags, Gibbs and Reus for Hummels and Cole

Enq

by Russell_Elmo Thu 13 Sep - 12:44

Would you do
Bertrand + N. de Jong
for
Turan
ENQ

by **Afro** Thu 13 Sep - 12:48

BigFellasAfro wrote:Jags, Gibbs and Reus for Hummels and Cole

Enq

Don't think I ever got a negotiation on this

by Fernando Thu 13 Sep - 16:51

Robben & VDV & 25m
for
Cazorla/Villa/Lucas

ENQ

by Russell_Elmo Thu 13 Sep - 17:00

Turan + Oscar
for
N. de Jong + Giovinco + Bertrand
ENQ

by Fernando Fri 14 Sep - 14:41

Fernando wrote:Robben & VDV & 25m
for
Cazorla/Villa/Lucas

ENQ

I shall presume by the lack of reply it's a no

by Fernando Fri 14 Sep - 20:06

I figured that would be the case Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - Page 15 3559488474

would you do it if dropped Lucas from the deal so still get 25m + VDV/Robben for just Villa/Santi?

by Trebs Sat 15 Sep - 10:10

I'm not a fan of De Rossi, sorry.

Possibly for Yaya Toure though

by Trebs Sat 15 Sep - 20:46

If we're doing a deal along those lines, I want better players than what you're offering.

by Trebs Sat 15 Sep - 20:58

Yeah I do. The way I see it, Di Maria is top class, nobody disputes that. De Rossi people have doubts about as he hasn't been great for a while, last season he wasn't one of Roma's better players, that's for sure. And James Rodriguez is rated similarly to Moura. That's my logic, so no, I don't think I'm getting the spectacular deal you claim. Sorry.

by TwisT Sun 16 Sep - 17:52

Baines + Diaby + Sterling = Buttner + Yaya Toure + Cazorla

ENQ

by Trebs Sun 16 Sep - 18:23

Yeah but it was previously undisputed.

by FIFA Diva Fri 21 Sep - 9:36

David Villa £25m
ENQ

by FIFA Diva Fri 21 Sep - 14:07

I can offer you £25m plus Lucho Gonzalez or Marvin Martin
ENQ

by FIFA Diva Fri 21 Sep - 15:05

I won't be able to find a deal where we both benefit.

by FIFA Diva Fri 21 Sep - 15:07

You can ask Afro about the Martin deal I didn't want to screw you and had second thoughts about doing the deal and most likely wouldn't have gone ahead with it but the only reason I went ahead was Smartest was looking to screw you harder.

by Trebs Fri 21 Sep - 23:15

Di Maria + Pepe + Rodriguez
for
Chiellini + Giovinco + De Rossi + Buttner

Di Maria >> Giovinco
Pepe => Chiellini (Not really sure how they are rated, but alongside Rami I prefer someone a bit more skillful, like Pepe. Both are rated fairly similarly I think though)
Rodriguez = De Rossi (De Rossi has ratings, but I don't think he's been up to scratch for a long time now, and I'm going to stick to my guns and my ratings.)
I have three left backs and Buttner wouldn't be anywhere near my first team so doesn't add a lot .

Also, I'd be losing two wingers, getting in an attacking midfielder who is rated lower than both of those wingers. It's just not logical to do that deal, it ruins the balance of my team. It's like me offering you Eto'o, Ibra and Marchisio for Chiellini, Toure and Hummels.

If you want Di Maria, then I want Toure involved.

by Trebs Fri 21 Sep - 23:49

Just because those three are considered your best doesn't mean they're equal to the three best of others unfortunately. Chiellini > Pepe for most of the league

I prefer Pepe, was a part of that fantastic Real Madrid defense who kept fourteen clean sheets in La Liga last season. Achieving more than Juventus. In the Champions League he didn't look great against Chelsea, in any case. I'm happy to have Pepe and Rami in defense because I believe that's a better defense than Chiellini and Rami.

and on Giovinco, people are finally realising he is quality.

A couple of managers are admitting they like him, yes. But he's at nowhere near the level of Rodriguez, who I'll come onto in a minute. But again, being part of a Real Madrid side who won the league gets you plaudits. I'd sooner have those players, who have achieved something and been part of a big side.

Rodriguez is potential at present, I like him but does he really win you votes? I can't see it. How many have actually seen him outside of a game in the CL or Europa League? I was Porto manager back on the Furious League so my interest is one more of having being aware of him over time (although he was always still back up then too behind Cazorla)

It's not relevant where people have watched the players, whether it is in the European games, or in the league games. I don't really care. I have only seen a lot of the players in this league in the Champions League or Europa League. Am I ashamed of that? No. I'm not going to sit through all the leagues and watch them. The European games give snippets of those players and that's enough to rate them, in my mind anyway.

Starting to fall into the Viva level of self belief in your own players disabling you from ever making an equal trade.

I think Viva's one of the best managers on here. He's like me, he refuses to be ripped off and stands by his ratings. I'm not going to suddenly think Pepe is worse than Chiellini just because you're trying to convince me to do a deal. It's like a salesman, they're not going to tell you the full truth. They're not your friend, they're trying to rip you off. I don't see you offering me a deal worth taking. If you genuinely wanted Di Maria or Pepe you'd offer better.

by Trebs Sat 22 Sep - 0:14

Pepe might be a thug but he wins the ball. Most of the top defenders are. They're not nice friendly guys who let the strikers have time on the ball. To say my defense is the weakest in the premier league is unfair. I wouldn't like to name as it'd be unfair but I can see two which are worse. Rodriguez is a good player, got loads of goals and assists last season and gets praised on the homepage by other managers, rather than me. If people see players in the CL/Europa league, then that's enough I think. I'm not expecting managers to have watched every single game week in week out. For example, when was the last time I saw Neymar play? Months ago. But I know he's quality.

Me and Viva refuse to be ripped off, the point of doing a deal is that is strengthens your side. He has placed his players on a pedestal, but that's not wrong of him because he has some quality players. I can see where you're coming from though, but when I get offered a deal I think is worth it, I will deal.

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