Festive boxing trivia quiz.

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Let's see if we can revive this old chestnut while we're still enjoying the festive season and, presumably, in light hearted mood. You know the score ; somebody asks a question and the person who provides the correct answer asks the next question, and so on.

I'll get the ball rolling with a fairly easy one :

One of the most controversial title fights in heavyweight history is linked to a true legend of boxing ( not a heavyweight, ) by a major US city and a relative who is not yet famous but will become famous immediately after the fight in question.

Who are the relatives, which is the city and which is the title fight?

I was thinking of Captain for the bonus bit but he's not posted on here yet assuming it is Mclagen?

Correct, it's Victor McLagen. Was a soldier when he fought Johnson and went on to become an actor starring opposite John Wayne in The Quiet Man.

Over to you, Oxy.

I got one right?



I'd like to thank the academy...

Give me a minute, I'll think of something.

oxring wrote:Mclaglen. He did a lot in his post-Johnson career - including movies and circus I believe.

Why am I not surprised that a circus clown once fought against the world champ.

Oh dear... Don't ruin the festive mood Az.

azania wrote:

oxring wrote:Mclaglen. He did a lot in his post-Johnson career - including movies and circus I believe.

Why am I not surprised that a circus clown once fought against the world champ.

I should imagine that many of us are pleased that clowns can exhibit such versatility, az.

Let's face it, if they couldn't we might never have been able to enjoy your input here.

What do Seldon, Ali, Holyfield and Wlad Klitschko all have in common (other than they've all held portions of the HW title, obviously)?

Please name each common factor as well...if that's clear enough without making it obvious.

HumanWindmill wrote:

azania wrote:

oxring wrote:Mclaglen. He did a lot in his post-Johnson career - including movies and circus I believe.

Why am I not surprised that a circus clown once fought against the world champ.

I should imagine that many of us are pleased that clowns can exhibit such versatility, az.

Let's face it, if they couldn't we might never have been able to enjoy your input here.

There you go. At least they did something which led to a positive outcome.....my input.

All olympians?

And that. Something else.

I'll phrase it differently.

Before the year 2000 - what was special with regards to the opponents of Ali, Seldon and Holyfield?

Something memorable for your 10000th post Windy!

No pressure mate.

All undefeated until they won a portion of the title. Heck they have plenty in common so narrow it down a little will ya!

The were in the division underneath Heavyweight...?

Not sure if that's right with Seldon, he looks massive but don't know his career very well.

Alright. There is something unique to Seldon, Holyfield and Ali with regards to their opposition.

After 2000 - Briggs, Vitali and Wladimir share the same feature in common.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Something memorable for your 10000th post Windy!

Didn't even realise, Alex!

Perhaps I should have opened a Marciano thread, since az is out and about.

oxring wrote:Alright. There is something unique to Seldon, Holyfield and Ali with regards to their opposition.

After 2000 - Briggs, Vitali and Wladimir share the same feature in common.

They all defended their titles against former champs in their first defence.

Sheldon - tyson. Holy - Bowe. Wlad - Who cares. Ali - Liston.

Biggs - Foreman. Vit - Peters. Wlad - Who cares?

HumanWindmill wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Something memorable for your 10000th post Windy!

Didn't even realise, Alex!

Perhaps I should have opened a Marciano thread, since az is out and about.

And I wish you a very happy end of old year also.

Probably got it Az, anywho guys I'm off until most probably Tuesday now, so see you all then happy new year!

Have a great one, Alex.

Nope. Still not it.

Coming down the right lines though. There was something, comparatively rare about at least one of their opponents styles. Or stances, perhaps.

Name it and the opponents in question.

Southpaws?

Yep - and the opponents?

Holyfield- Moorer
Wladimir- Byrd
Ali- ???
Seldon- Hipp or something like that

Mildenberger, Moorer and Ibragimov, but I can't get the Seldon one without cheating.

Have to give it to Ghosty for Hipp.

Ali had Mildenberger and Dunn
Wlad had Ibragimov
Briggs had Ibragimov
Vitali had Byrd
Holyfield Moorer
and Seldong W KO10 Hipp.

Your question ghosty and make yours more understandable than mine

Will admit Oxy i'm not quite seeing where Wlad and Ibragimov fit into this?

Nice easy one

Who is somewhat contentiously considered to be the first two weight world champion?

George Dixon.

If only this was QI Windy, the buzzers would be going off.

Not Dixon then, Ghosty?

His bantamweight title was won without gloves I believe Windy although from what i've read the featherweight and bantamweight titles were effectively the same thing during the 1890's, weights fluctuating up and down per contractual agreement.

Okay, mate.

Will put my thinking cap on.

Don't try thinking too hard.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Will admit Oxy i'm not quite seeing where Wlad and Ibragimov fit into this?

Wlad defended his title against Ibragimov (already a titlist). Sultan was a southpaw. One of the most boring fight I've ever seen, consisting of 12 rounds of nothingness. A cure for insomnia, that one. I believe it was that fight which turned HBO off HW boxing.

Not Dixon? Hmm. Testing one.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Don't try thinking too hard.

Cheeky sod!

How about Tommy Ryan?

So are they the only southpaws to have ever challenged for the title?

Imperial Ghosty wrote:So are they the only southpaws to have ever challenged for the title?

Think so (although if you find another I'll abandon that question and pretend it didn't happen )

HumanWindmill wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Don't try thinking too hard.

Cheeky sod!

How about Tommy Ryan?

Scrub that. Fitz beat Ryan to it by a year, now that I think about it. Can't be McGovern, either, so I guess I'm stumped.

HumanWindmill wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Don't try thinking too hard.

Cheeky sod!

How about Tommy Ryan?

Was beaten to the accolade by a few months.

oxring wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:So are they the only southpaws to have ever challenged for the title?

Think so (although if you find another I'll abandon that question and pretend it didn't happen )

Chagaev but thats still Wlad so i'll let you off.

Sod it. That means I forgot Valuev as well (defended against Chagaev).

Thanks Ghosty - you've pointed out that I made a royal mess of that quiz

Nonpareuil Jack Dempsey? If we acknowledge his NY lightweight crown as a world title?

Much more simple than that.

Maybe I was looking at this the wrong way round.

Is it Fitzsimmons, and is the contentious issue the fact that some reckon it to be Dixon?

If you're right Windy, I will feel rather foolish.

Right or wrong, oxy, I already do.

It is indeed Fitzsimmons, the contentious issue is also Dixon often wrongly being regarded as the man.