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DEPTH CHART

1. Healy / Catt / Bristow
2. Strauss / Tolufua / Batty / Dunn
3. Franks / KPN / Tomascyzk
4. Muller / Hooper / Beaumont
5. Attwood / Eldsadt / Spencer
6. SOB / Fearns / Lund
7. Louw / Salvi / Mercer
8. Beattie / Kalamafoni / Skirving
9. Kerr-Barlow / Classens / Cook
10. Hook / Olding / Clegg
11. Ranger / Biggs
12. Steyn / Eastmond / Barkley / Williams
13. Bosch / Lualala / Daly / Mosses
14. Bowe  / Woodburn
15. Dagg / Goode / Catterick /Chisholm

6Ns
Catt - Strauss - Franks
Muller - Attwood
Louw - Kala - Salvi
Kerr-Barlow - Olding
Eastmond - Bosch
Biggs - Dagg - Ranger

4Ns
Healy - Tolufua - Tomascyuk
Muller - Attwood
SOB - Kala - Salvi
Classens - Hook
Eastmond - Lualala
Ranger - Daly - Bowe

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SENIOR SQUAD

Squad Size: 45/45
Hookers: 4
Props: 6 (2 LH, 3 TH)
Locks: 4
Back Row: 9
Half Backs: 6
Centres: 8
Back Three: 9

English Qualified: 24
Foreign: 21

Hookers
Adriaan Strauss [RSA]
Christopher Tolofua [FRA]
Ross Batty [ENG]
Tom Dunn [ENG] ACADEMY

Props
Cian Healy [IRE]
Nathan Catt* [ENG]
Tom Bristow [ENG]

Owen Franks* [NZL]
Kane Palmer Newport [ENG]
Oliver Tomascyzk [ENG]

Second Row
David Attwood* [ENG]
Johann Muller* [RSA]
Rynhardt Elstadt [RSA] (BS)
Stuart Hooper [ENG]

Back Row
Francois Louw* [RSA] (BS/OS/N8)
Julian Salvi [AUS] 
Guy Mercer [ENG]

Sean O'Brien [IRE] (BS/OS/N8)
Carl Fearns* [ENG] (BS/OS/N8)
Magnus Lund [ENG](BS/OS/N8)

Johnnie Beattie [SCO] (BS/N8)
Sione Kalamafoni [TON] (BS/N8)
Ben Skirving [ENG] (BS/N8)

Half Backs
Tawera Kerr - Barlow [NZL]
Michael Claassens* [RSA]
Chris Cook [ENG] - 16/4/91

James Hook [WAL] (FH/IC/OC/FB)
Stuart Olding [IRE] - 11/3/93 (FH/IC)
Rory Clegg [ENG]

Centres
Francois Steyn* [RSA] (IC/OC/FB/FH)
Kyle Eastmond* [ENG] (IC/OC/WG/FH)
Ollie Barkley [ENG] (IC/FH)
Ben Williams [ENG] (IC/OC)

Marcelo Bosch [ARG] (OC/IC/FB/FH)
Casey Laulala [NZL]
Eliot Daly [ENG] -8/10/92 (OC/FB/WG)
Ben Mosses [ENG]

Back Three
Tommy Bowe* [IRE] (WG/OC/FB)
Rene Ranger* [NZL] (WG/OC)
Tom Biggs [ENG]
Olly Woodburn [ENG] - 18/11/91

Israel Dagg* [NZL]
Alex Goode [ENG] (FB/FH)
Ross Chisholm [ENG]
Tom Catterick [ENG]
Rob Cook [ENG]

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THE ACADEMY

Squad Size: 20/20

HK - Max Anderson
PR - Tom Meatyard
LK - Will Spencer - 30/5/92
LK - Tom Ellis (England U18)
LK - Jamie Collins
LK - Josh Beaumont - 24/3/92
LK - Jake Oldaker - (England 18)
BR - Joe Buckle - 13/5/93
BR - Tom Baldwin - 28/9/92
BR - James Stephenson - 13/12/91
BR - Max Northcote-Green (England U18)
BR - Joe Ellyatt
N8 - Will Skuse - 14/2/92
N8 - James Tyas

SH - Matt Keyte - 5/4/91
SH - Will Clemensha - 4/9/92
FH - Ollie Devoto (England U20)
FH - Fred Gabbitas
WG - Richard Lane - 21/7/93
FB - Jamie-John Kilmartin - 21/1/93 (Scotland U20)

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INJURIES/SUSPENSIONS
Players are available in:
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BUDGET

Transfers/Loans In: (£-) Shaw - 0m, Phillips - 0m, Franks - 25m, Steyn - 23m, Laulala - 0m, Dagg - 22m, Golding, Muller, Lund, Clegg, Catterick, Beaumont - p/x, Chisholm - 2.5m, O'Brien - 23m, Cook 1.5m, Healy - 22m, Tolofua - £10m, Hook - 23m, Daly - 12m (plus 2m if EPS), Tomascyzk - 2m, Kalamafoni - 1.5m, Bowe - 24m, FVDMerwe - 7m, Salvi - 12m, Elstadt - 19m, Varndell - p/ex, Goode - p/ex, Ranger - 21m, Kerr-Barlow - 19m, Olding - 10m, Beattie - 20.5m, Bristow - 2m

Transfers/Loans Out:  Biller - 4m, Cuthbert - 8.5m, Scott Hobson - 1.5m, Bell - 2.5m, Roberts - 1.5m, Phillips - 5m, Beattie - 1.5m, Tanner - 1.5m, Lilley - 1.5m, Wilson, Shaw, Moody, Heathcote, Abendanon - p/x, Scott - 1.5m, Ovens - 1.5m, Beech - 1.5m, Flatman - 5m, Retirements - 8m, Moss - 0.5m, Donald - 2.5m, Taylor - 2.5m, Dixon, 1.5m, Vesty - 2.5m, Caldwell - 1.5m, Carraro - 1.5m, Mears - 8m, Banahan - p/ex, Varndell - p/ex, Hipkiss - 5m, Golding - 3m, Donald - 2.5m, McMillan - 1.5m

Budget Bonuses: £- 12m League, £10m TV Rights, £8m Sponsorship, £6m Cup

Current Budget: £3m

A poxy 3 million.

Fearns for Johnson maybe plus something?

That's then making me get rid of Nowell and Slade two youngsters who I will need.

I have more money now anyway.

Fearns + Biggs
for
TJ + Camacho + 5m

Fearns + Biggs
for
Gibson + Camacho

?

Still up for.

Biggs
for
Camacho + 5m

or

Attwood + Biggs
for
Hanks + Camacho + 10m

?

Can I confirm any of the aboves?

You still up for.

Biggs
for
Camacho +5m

?

Biggs
for
Arscott + Nowell

?

Steenson for Donald You know it's only fair haha

perenise?

not letting garvey or salvi go for perenise

catt available?

I'm in for Heathcote?

I'd be interested in Williams, Catt. Heathcote, Woodburn

Make it Heathcote instead of Williams and I'd probably deal

Camacho for Woodburn?

Enq

You'd want more than an established international winger for a young player just starting out in the game?

I have to say and I am not directing this at you solely, but I really struggle with how some people value players on this game.

Would you consider Strauss for Abendanoon mate?

No probs fella, I like Williams but I'm flush at centre so wouldn't make much sense doing your offer.

Anything for Attwood?

PDJ + Strauss = Wilson + Steyn?

Sorry mate would consider PDJ a much better scrummager then Wilson these days so would need a gain else where and Barkley/Hipkiss and co wouldnt really be a gain for me.

Some players that interest me include Attwood, Fearns, Steyn and Abendanoon. Could do Strauss straight up for say Abendanoon/Attwood

And PDJ has been in great nick all season getting himself ahead of Mujati in the Saints pecking order...

Plenty of cover on the wings but none at fullback so would have to be Abendanoon mate. Unless you were willing to do Williams & Woodburn.

So Strauss = Abendaoon + 3m...
Abendanoon gives me good cover at FB. Strauss gives you 1 of the form hookers in the NH

or
Strauss = Williams + Woodburn
Strauss gives you 1 of the form hookers in the NH. And I pick up some good squad depth

Have to be a lot better than that in a straight swap

Or

Mullan + A 4 B + Wilson

Where B > A

No interest in Shaw hes too old

Bendy + Wilson 4 Rooney + Mullan would be a deal I'd think about

In the short term it's a good deal for me but long term it's not good for me

Catt doesn't interest me at all

Mercer + Wilson + Woodburn 4 Mullan + Claasens

If you have Woodburn near Claasens then its fair

Claasens =>
Mullan >
< Mercer

What for Ollie Phillips mate?

Can't really let my best youngsters go given where my squad is at mate. Can go to £5 million for Phillips but no higher than that.

Cheers bud

It's quite tricky with the squad I have trying to decide who I can let go and who I can't. Aim is for survival this seaosn then trying to kick on next year. Will be a bit clearer and able to do some bigger deals if I can get a couple of wins under my belt and head towards safety.

Would probably be looking for Attwood/Shaw in a deal, I could include Lahiff + a replacement?

Corbs + Mafi
4
Catt + Shaw

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Not a bad offer. Would need to be Flatman at least, still a big drop though. Any chance of Donald/Bowden?

Flats + Shaw + Donald
4
Corbs + Mafi + Bowden + Taki

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You're gonna need to even that up, Biggs or Vesty?

I've just got Palmer, so my need for Shaw has lessened. Do you see a Franks/Servat deal at all?

Sssssssh.


Corbs + Taki + Bowden
4
Flatman + Biggs + Donald


If that's the lines you're going down (2 gains, 1 loss) I'll leave it. Bowden is key to me too

So Strauss = Abendaoon + 3m...
Abendanoon gives me good cover at FB. Strauss gives you 1 of the form hookers in the NH

or
Strauss = Williams + Woodburn
Strauss gives you 1 of the form hookers in the NH. And I pick up some good squad depth

Anything doing on these mate?

Fair enough mate just seen your comment from yesterday!

Sorry mate Il leave that deal think both my players would be higher rated in thei own positions so not willing to lose out for a cover fullback

Would be interested in Bendy

Sorry mate dont consider Abendanoon big enough a gain to let PDJ go. Only looking for cover at fullback and PDJ is a very important player for me

Don't fancy Flatman

Don't fancy losing Muller, and Shaw is on his last legs now.

Wilson potentially...

Let me have a little think

sorry mate no interest in shaw as have garvey.
wentzel not really for sale as would need an as good lineout operator in return.

Hi mate, for Kennedy I would be looking for Attwood. Happy with Kennedy though so not keen on any gains from my end. Hari def not for sale.

Out of the two id be more likely to let Day go mate. Who you got available for him?

Yeah, as I expect you'll want Bowden too?

bekker would be ideal.
I'm looking for a bit of autility back in foreigns, tempted by Ioane or Cory Jane.

i thought of rougerie but he is 31 and i would like someone a bit younger
i think SBW might stay in Union a bit longer, might depend on how he goes this S15.

Sorry mate no interest in Shaw think hes on in his last legs