USA V Russia thread

by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:44 am

3-3 so far. Would love to see Russia win this one.

by Guest Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:47 am

same here mckay, not least because I've gone for them to win on SG!

Would be a great win for them tbh, and I love the way they're looking to play the game.

by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:48 am

Exactly. have you read the interview wth kingsley jones? Very interesting stuff

by HammerofThunor Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:49 am

You can tell they're coached by a Welshman...the lineout ain't good

by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:51 am

great try from USA.

by beshocked Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:51 am

I want USA to win this one simply because two Saracens players are starting for them. Chris Wyles being back for USA in this match is a huge boost for them.

by Guest Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:51 am

Hammer -

(yet it's so very true....)

mckay - yeah I've read that. Really interesting, and it's great how there's a bit of a boom in the amount of registered rugby players out there. If they can put in really decent performances and get a win here over the USA it will be massive for the game out there.

by BATH_BTGOG Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:52 am

I thought this was on Talksport?

by HammerofThunor Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:53 am

beshocked wrote:I want USA to win this one simply because two Saracens players are starting for them. Chris Wyles being back for USA in this match is a huge boost for them.

I think that's the best reason to support another nation. You're supporting your players (Wyles looking good so far). The other is the lock right?

by HammerofThunor Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:55 am

Imagine if the Soviet Union reformed? Georgian forwards and Russian backs. Russian forwards seem to be out-muscled so far.

Anyone know if it's pronounced "Cle-ver" or "Clee-ver". I'm sure after the Irish game they were saying "Clee-ver"

by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:55 am

I support Russia because I had a great time there in 1999. They are crazy people and I think Rugby could be really big there if they get some exposure.

by BATH_BTGOG Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:56 am

Found it, online only.

by beshocked Thu 15 Sep 2011, 8:58 am

Yes HammerofThunor Hayden Smith is the Saracens lock.

Doesn't surprise me about Wyles. He's class.

by Guest Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:00 am

score update at all anyone? the Beeb "live" score updates I do not trust!

by **Pal Joey** Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:03 am

10-3 to US

by Davie Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:03 am

BATH_BTGOG wrote:I thought this was on Talksport?

Someone should complain to Talksport about this. They have been advertising for almost a year that they would be featuring live, exclusive and uninterrupted coverage of every match - yet it seems some games are only online. Seems like misrepresentation to me. Instead we have to listen to "wee mannie Irani" blethering on instead

by beshocked Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:03 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/rugby-world-cup/8764328/Rugby-World-Cup-2011-Russia-v-USA-live.html

Follow this link above.

10-3 to USA. 27 mins so far.

by rugbyfan Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:04 am

HammerofThunor wrote:Imagine if the Soviet Union reformed? Georgian forwards and Russian backs. Russian forwards seem to be out-muscled so far.

Anyone know if it's pronounced "Cle-ver" or "Clee-ver". I'm sure after the Irish game they were saying "Clee-ver"

Clee-ver apparently... not sure why? One of the supporters had a banner with a picture of a meat cleaver.

by Guest Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:06 am

cheers guys.

by beshocked Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:10 am

Why are USA making Wyles kick? It's not surprising he keeps missing. He isn't a kicker.

by HammerofThunor Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:11 am

Probably their best kicker. Says it all

by Davie Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:13 am

Another penalty for Wyles

13-3

by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:13 am

This is 100mph stuff. As the commentator implies, fitness will play a big part in the last 20.

by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:14 am

Davie wrote:Another penalty for Wyles

13-3

? I was out. ITV have it at 10-3.

by Davie Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:16 am

That was from the BBC live scores page. Of course they could be wrong!

by HammerofThunor Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:17 am

Good work Clever

by beshocked Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:17 am

Yes Hammerofthunor that does say it all....

The consoliation is what when he and Wigglesworth get backs to Sarries we could play about 5 place kickers at the same time!

9.Wigglesworth
10.Hodgson
11,13 or 14.Wyles
12.Farrell
15.Goode

by **Pal Joey** Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:18 am

10-3 HT

by beshocked Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:26 am

Do Russia have any professional players? I know Armitiev has now signed for Saints but he isn't there yet so won't have benefitted from their training regime.

In terms of fitness you would expect the likes of Wyles,Smith and Nwengya to easily last the full 80 minutes as professionals.

Those guys against tired legs will be tough for Russia. Especially as this is Wyles' first game from his injury layoff so will be fresher.

I expect Wyles or Nwengya will score the next USA try.

by aucklandlaurie Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:28 am

Bath btgog and others
i get the feeling that for some reason this is going to be a dumb question, but why dont you guys just watch these games on tv live?

by **rodders** Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:31 am

HammerofThunor wrote:Good work Clever

Clever was immense against Ireland. Hows this one going?

I wonder if the USA watched Rocky IV before the match to psyche themselves up?

by **Biltong** Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:37 am

looking at the match statistics it looks like USA is making all the play?

by Davie Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:37 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:Bath btgog and others
i get the feeling that for some reason this is going to be a dumb question, but why dont you guys just watch these games on tv live?

It's 9:30am here in the UK - We are at work!

BTW BBC page has now corrected the score back to 10-3 and not 13-3 .. yet it still shows 1 try, conversion and 2 penalties. Well done BBC!

by screamingaddabs Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:38 am

beshocked wrote:Do Russia have any professional players? I know Armitiev has now signed for Saints but he isn't there yet so won't have benefitted from their training regime.

Russia have their own pro league. I guess all of them will be pro. Obviously not the same standard as the Jeff/ML/top14 etc but you'd expect fitness to not be a concern.

by **Biltong** Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:39 am

They interviewed a guy (don't know his name), on supersport last night, he says becasue of the vast distances they need to travel the clubs do about 11 000 kms to play away games per weekend.

That is tough in anyones book.

by **rodders** Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:44 am

Davie wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:Bath btgog and others
i get the feeling that for some reason this is going to be a dumb question, but why dont you guys just watch these games on tv live?

It's 9:30am here in the UK - We are at work!

My employer wouldn't be too impressed if I was sat here at my desk watching the match with a can of fosters!

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:45 am

biltongbek wrote:They interviewed a guy (don't know his name), on supersport last night, he says becasue of the vast distances they need to travel the clubs do about 11 000 kms to play away games per weekend.

That is tough in anyones book.

Blinkin 'eck. That's Super XV type distances - and SXV schedules the the away games as tours to cut down the number of trips.

Given the horror stories about Russian airliners too ... (a crash recently killed the whole squad of a Moscow ice-hocky team, the team is currently being rebuilt using players volunteering to transfer from other clubs)

by **Biltong** Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:48 am

The problem as well, it takes two days of travel to get to venues. I suppose the infrastructure has something to do with it as well.

by mckay1402 Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:52 am

They need an american football like conference system really. the distances are seriously huge.

by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:53 am

This game is a rare treat. Not many quarters being given.

Last 20 minutes and still the game is being played fast. Good stuff.

by Davie Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:54 am

Still 10-3??

by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:55 am

mckay1402 wrote:They need an american football like conference system really. the distances are seriously huge.

There are only 8 teams in the Russian league and apparently the bottom club frequently gets beaten by 50+ points.

13-3 now pen from Wyles.

by **Pal Joey** Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:55 am

13-3 now Wyles adds a penalty.

by HammerofThunor Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:56 am

I think most teams are either around Moscow or Krasnoyarsk (Siberia). According to the Oracle of Truth (wikipedia) Krasnoyarsk is the unofficial home of Russian Rugby. Although a Moscow side has won the league in the last few years.

by Davie Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:56 am

Bloody hell - Auntie Beeb must have a time machine. They got that scoreline half an hour early!

by HammerofThunor Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:57 am

Is it me but is Ngwenya playing a bit pants?

by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:58 am

Davie wrote:Bloody hell - Auntie Beeb must have a time machine. They got that scoreline half an hour early!

Nostradamus works for the Beeb. Smile

by doctor_grey Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:58 am

Good morning!

Looks like the US has most of the psooession and territory in the senond half. Just making some mistakes at key moments of they might have some real points.

by Portnoy Thu 15 Sep 2011, 9:59 am

C'mon Russia! don't let my SG prediction down!

by doctor_grey Thu 15 Sep 2011, 10:00 am

Port,
What was your prediction? Rus by how many?

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