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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 10:50 am

-Michael Cole and Byron Saxton welcome us to the legendary Ryogoku Sumo Hall in Japan.

CHRIS JERICHO vs. NEVILLE

Neville leads early with the speed advantage, but Jericho catches him in a submission hold. That’s the theme of the match for the first few minutes – Neville does something flashy, and Jericho puts him in a hold or tosses him over the ropes and keeps control. The crowd is split between being your usual respectful Japanese wrestling crowd, applauding each sequence, but this is still a WWE crowd and a few dueling chants break out. Y2J slows things down to work a headlock – and few get as much out of a headlock than he does – maintaining control. Neville gets in a few shots but is caught with an ax handle off the top. They battle up on the ropes over a superplex spot, and it’s Neville who wins the trade, but he misses the Red Arrow. He rushes into a pop-up Walls of Jericho transition, teases a tap-out, but eventually gets to the ropes. Jericho takes a breather and Neville finally uses his opening to hit a corkscrew plancha over the ropes to take him down. We get a “this is awesome” chant from a Japanese wrestling crowd. It’s Red Arrow time again – he’ll settle for a springboard missile dropkick, and a standing Shooting Star Press out of nowhere for two-and-a-half. Another great trade sees Y2J holds onto the ropes to avoid a dropkick, then immediately hitting the Lionsault on his downed opponent. Neville off the springboard gets caught out of the air with a Codebreaker! 1…2…kickout! Jericho with a big German suplex, but Neville with a superkick. Another superkick. He climbs the ropes and looks for the Red Arrow a third time; Jericho counters with knees and locks in the Liontamer for the submission. Incredible.

Winner: Chris Jericho


We see Brock Lesnar arriving to the Arena

After the match, we get replays as Jericho looks out to the crowd. Jericho slaps hands and poses with fans on the way to the back.

- We see video from earlier today with Brock Lesnar arriving by himself to Sumo Hall. We get a promo for Monday's post-RAW live Dusty Rhodes tribute.

Triple Threat for the WWE Divas Title: Paige vs. Tamina Snuka vs. Nikki Bella

We come back to the ring and out comes Paige followed by Tamina Snuka. WWE Divas Champion Nikki Bella is out next by herself.

The bell rings and Tamina nails both of them but gets rolled up by Nikki. Paige rolls Nikki up next. Tamina nails clotheslines no both of them and plays to the crowd for a pop. Paige with kicks on Tamina now. Paige with a series of knees to Tamina on the apron. Tamina drops Paige and covers for 2. Nikki comes back in as Paige gets sent to the floor. Tamina and Nikki go at it now. Nikki with a kick from the second rope for a 2 count. Tamina with another big right hand and a suplex for a 2 count as Paige breaks the pin. Paige with headbutts on Tamina now. Paige and Nikki team up to suplex Tamina. They toss Tamina and go at it. Nikki with a 2 count on Paige.

More back and forth and pin attempts between the two. Nikki goes for the Alabama Slam but Paige counters and hits a big knee to the face for a 2 count. Paige with a series of knees to the face in the corner. Tamina tries to get in the ring but Paige tops her. Nikki with shoulder thrusts in the corner on Paige. They trade forearms as Nikki takes Paige to the top. Nikki goes for a superplex but Tamina runs over and they all crash to the mat. Tamina with a pin on Nikki but the referee is dealing with Paige. Tamina runs over and covers Paige for 2. She yells at the referee and runs back to Nikki for a 2 count.

Tamina unloads until Paige and Nikki start double teaming her and take her out. Nikki slams Paige for a close 2 count. Nikki runs into a kick and Paige nails the RamPaige for a close 2 count. Paige ends up going for the PTO but Tamina runs in and breaks it with a superkick to the face as fans boo. Tamina hits a Samoan Drop on Nikki. Tamina goes up for the Superfly Splash but Nikki rolls out of the way. Nikki drops Tamina with a forearm for the win.

Winner: Nikki Bella

- After the match, Nikki grabs her title and poses in the corners.

- We get a vignette for Brock Lesnar.

Kofi Kingston vs. Brock Lesnar

We go back to the ring and out comes Kofi Kingston. Brock Lesnar's music hits next to a pop and out he comes by himself.

Lesnar makes his way to the ring and stares Kofi down. Kofi exits the ring as Lesnar enters. Kofi tries to come back in as Lesnar stares him down but Lesnar scares him back off the apron. The bell rings and Kofi runs right out of the ring. Lesnar chases him around and back in. Kofi attacks but Lesnar takes it and beats him into the corner with knees. Lesnar catches Kofi's crossbody. Kofi slides out and dropkicks Lesnar into the corner. Brock comes right back and catches Kofi in mid-air. Brock manhandles Kofi ans goes for a German but Kofi lands on his feet. Kofi with a springboard kick that sends Lesnar to one knee. Kofi with more kicks to the knee but Lesnar just takes them all. Lesnar catches Kofi with a huge German. Lesnar with another German.

Lesnar bounces around and smirks before hitting another German suplex. Lesnar scoops Kofi and nails a big F5 for the win.

Winner: Brock Lesnar

- After the match, Lesnar has his arm raised. Lesnar takes his time leaving and stops on the apron. He looks back at Kofi before coming back in. Lesnar circles Kofi and easily picks him up for another German. Lesnar laughs at Kofi as a "one more time" chant starts. Lesnar picks Kofi up for another F5. Xavier Woods and Big E rush the ring but Lesnar quickly drops them. Lesnar with a F5 for Woods. Big E charges ad Lesnar easily scoops him for a F5 also. Lesnar's music hits and he leaves as he leaves The New Day laid out in the ring.

We see WWE NXT Champion Kevin Owens backstage preparing. They air a vignette on Finn Balor and a video package for the match.

NXT Title Match: Finn Balor vs. Kevin Owens

We go to the ring and out first comes Finn Balor with his grand entrance. He's done up as The Demon for this match. WWE NXT Champion Kevin Owens is out next.

Owens mocks a bunch of John Cena fans at ringside. We see Hideo Itami sitting in the crowd. Balor and Owens are both presented with bouquets of flowers before the match, a tradition in Japan. Owens takes his flowers and tosses them as fans boo. The ring starts filling up with streamers also.

We wait for the crew to clear the ring of streamers as Finn and Owens stare each other down. The bell rings and Balor nails a dropkick. Balor goes to the top but Owens rolls to the floor. Balor leaps to the floor and takes him out. They come back in and Owens starts striking. Owens misses a big right hand and Balor collides with him. Balor misses a dropkick and Owens goes to the floor. Balor dropkicks him through the ropes now. Balor sends Owens into the barrier and hits a big running dropkick. Finn brings it back in with chops in the corner. Owens fights back but Finn comes right back with chops. Owens catches Balor in a big slam for a 2 count. Owens mounts Balor with right hands and stomps on him. Owens with a chop in the corner. He talks some trash and keeps control as fans boo.

Owens whips Balor into the corner hard and he goes down. Owens bows to the crowd as they boo. Balor fights back with forearms but runs into a big elbow. Owens with a 2 count. Owens with a headlock now. More back and forth now. Owens ends up knocking Balor out of the air off a springboard. Balor falls to the floor and Owens follows. Owens sends Balor into the steps. Owens brings it back in for a 2 count. Owens tosses Balor back to the floor and counts along with the referee. Finn comes back in at the 8 count and Owens goes to work on him. Owens runs the ropes like he's going to do something but just applies a headlock. Owens says he hates this stupid country and everyone in it.

More back and forth. Finn manages to dropkick Owens in the face. Finn with more offense and a 2 count. They trade shots in the middle of the ring now. Owens with a pair of shoulder tackles and the big slam, just like John Cena. Owens calls for the Five Knuckle Shuffle and hits it. Owens goes for the Attitude Adjustment but Finn counters and stomps on his chest. Finn with chops in the corners. Owens catches him for an AA again but Finn slides out. More back and forth. Finn hits a pele kick. Owens ends up back on the floor. Balor runs the ropes and dive out onto him. Finn brings it back in and goes to the top for a stomp to the back of the head. Finn hits the lifting inverted DDT for a close 2 count. Finn goes back to the top but misses the Coup de Grâce and rolls through. Owens drops Balor on his head for close 2 counts twice. Fans chant "this is awesome" as Owens gets up and waits.

Balor comes back and hits Sling Blade. Finn goes to the top but Owens cu him off. They trade shots. Owens brings Finn down to the mat with a headbutt. Balor drops Owens with a kick to the head. Finn goes back to the top and nails the Coup de Grâce but Owens kicks out at 2. Finn unloads with rights and lefts in the corner. Owens with a headbutt and another. Finn with more strikes. Finn takes Owens up top but Owens fights him off. Finn with forearms. Finn goes for a superplex but has to settle for a kick to the head instead. He climbs back up but Owens grabs him on his shoulders. Owens with the rolling senton from the top for a close 2 count. Owens goes back to the top and hits a swanton but Balor gets his knees up. Finn plants Owens for another close 2 count. Owens with a kick and a big throw onto Finn's head for 2.

Owens waits for Finn to get up and yells at him. Owens smacks Finn around to boos. Finn slaps back. Owens goes for the pop-up powerbomb but Finn nails a big clothesline. Finn sends Owens to the corner and hits the big dropkick. Finn goes back up and hits the Coup de Grâce for the win.

Winner and New WWE NXT Champion: Finn Balor

- After the match, Balor's music hits and he celebrates with the title as an angry Owens looks on. We see Hideo Itami looking on from the crowd. WWE Hall of Famer Tatsumi Fujinami comes out to greet Balor and he marks out. Finn offers his hand to Owens as fans chant "NXT" and Owens teases it but he walks off as fan boo. We go back to replays as Balor continues celebrating with the NXT Title.


- We get a Tough Enough promo and a look at Tatsumi Fujinami being honored at Friday's WWE live event in Tokyo.

Kane and King Barrett vs. Dolph Ziggler and John Cena

We go to the ring and out first comes King Barrett. His partner Kane is out next and Dolph Ziggler is out first for his team. WWE United States Champion John Cena is out last to a big pop.

Ziggler and Barrett start the match off back and forth. Ziggler gets the upperhand first and rolls Barrett up for 2. Ziggler with a kick for 2. Barrett turns it around and tags in Kane. After more tags and some back and forth, it's Barrett keeping Cena grounded on the mat. Cena powers up with Barrett on his back and rams him into the corner. Kane comes in and stops Cena from tagging. Cena fights back and scoops Kane but Kane falls on top of him for a 2 count. Kane slams Cena twice and covers for a 2 count.

Kane keeps control and covers for another pin. Barrett tags back in and they keep Cena grounded. Cena is kept down until he finally hits an Attitude Adjustment on Barrett out of nowhere. Kane comes back in and Cena scoops him but Kane falls on top of him for another 2 count. Kane comes off the top rope and decks Cena for another 2 count. More back and forth. Kane catches Cena in a big sideslam for a 2 count as Ziggler looks on. Barrett tags back in and puts the boots to Cena. Barrett with an elbow drop from the second rope for a 2 count.

Barrett goes back to the second rope for an elbow but Cena rolls out of the way. Ziggler finally gets the tag and unloads on Barrett. Kane gets knocked off the apron but Ziggler turns around to a big boot from Barrett. Kane tags in and stomps away on Ziggler, kicking him to the floor. Kane keeps control and covers for another 2 count before tagging in Barrett. Barrett with forearms while Ziggler is laid out over the top rope. Barrett with a high knee for a 2 count as Cena waits for a tag. Ziggler ends up countering Winds of Change but gets clotheslined. Kane comes back in for a 2 count. Kane keeps control and covers for another pin attempt. Ziggler fights out of a hold. Kane blocks the Fame-asser and slams Ziggler for 2. Barrett comes back in and hits Ziggler with knees on the ropes, knocking him to the floor as fans boo. Kane gets a cheap shot in on the floor.


Barrett sends Ziggler into the apron before rolling him back in and covering for a 2 count. Barrett takes Ziggler to the mat with a headlock and Ziggler fades. Ziggler makes a comeback but gets caught with Winds of Change for a 2 count. Barrett gets frustrated as he tags Kane back in. Kane and Barrett with more punishment for Ziggler. Ziggler finally drops Kane with a DDT and tags in Cena as Barrett comes in. Cena with the shoulder tackles and the big slam on Barrett. Cena his the Five Knuckle Shuffle on Barrett. He goes for the AA but Kane runs in. Cena blocks a chokeslam and Ziggler superkicks Kane. Cena with the AA on Kane. Barrett misses a clothesline on Cena and runs into a Ziggler superkick. Cena with the AA on Barrett for the win.

Winners: John Cena and Dolph Ziggler

- After the match, Ziggler and Cena hit the corners to pose fans. We go to replays as Cena raises Ziggler's arm. Cole thanks their partners at J Sports and everyone else who worked on the broadcast. Cena and Ziggler go to celebrate with fans at ringside. Thy make their way to the entrance and Cena raises Ziggler's arm again to a pop. We get another look at new NXT Champion Finn Balor as "The Beast In The East" goes off the air.


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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 10:58 am

The Japanese have managed to get enthusiastic about a Women's title match Laugh

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:05 am

I'm at a loose end.  And I'd have re-subscribed to the Network to watch this, but damned if I can work out how to do such a simple task.  Kiss your 9.99 good-bye Vince Smile

EDIT: But now I read that they put Jericho over Neville, which would be no good for my blood pressure. I know this is Japan and all that, but seriously WWE has no idea how to build stars.
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:09 am

I would suggest watching the match Ok! It's seriously good regardless of result Smile

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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:11 am

Surprisingly Brock is up already guessing the NXT Title is main eventing.

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:13 am

I've found a way to watch it. I'll have a go at the Network again later. Seriously, I can't believe with the amount of subscribers they lose that there's not a massive welcome back re-subscribe in 1-click button.
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:14 am

I thought it had a re-activate button Laugh It did last time i did it anyway Ok!

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:18 am

Worst commentary ever. "If Brock did that to a celebrated champion like Kofi, what's he going to do to Rollins". Why do they bury Rollins at every chance they get as their champ, it doesn't make him a plucky underdog, just a nobody.
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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:20 am

Was that it? Glad I saved me money now Rolling Eyes

I still think that Brock could have come out of that looking a monster while letting Big E get at least one shot in against him. Did I mention anything about WWE not being able to build stars Very Happy
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:21 am

Ive taken a new approach to Wrestling. Listen to my ipod and just watch the matches Laugh Mainly to avoid stupid stuff like that angel

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:21 am

I know that opinion is split on Finn and his entrance, but I'm freaking pumped for this!
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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:24 am

Is Diego going to get the main event spot Headscratch
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:25 am

Ive no idea Laugh The only thing i learnt is yesterday Okada & Nakamura had a try out.

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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:29 am



-Finn Balor challenging Kevin Owens for the NXT title

-Brock Lesnar vs. Kofi Kingston - done

-Chris Jericho vs. Neville - done

-U.S. Champion John Cena and Dolph Ziggler vs. King Barrett and Kane - Not seen?

-The Lucha Dragons vs New Day - Pre show according to Cole

-Cesaro vs Diego - ??

-Tamina Snuka vs Paige vs Nikki Bella for the WWE Divas Title - Done

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:30 am

Did they? I was just assuming that was BS. Anyone who thinks that Okada needs a try out is nuts. And Nakamura. "Okay Shinsuke, can you show us a head lock. That's it, just like Cody Rhodes does". IMVHO Nakamura has the most ring presence of any wrestler in the world. And I'd hate to see him in WWE cos I think they'd absolutely ruin him. Even seeing what success Owens is having, I think Vince would say that Nakamura is not getting over because he's Japanese Rolling Eyes
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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:31 am

Cena main event then. Hopefully with an ending where a really peed Owens gives him a border toss.
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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:38 am

Kevin Owens is the best out and out heel we've probably see in the WWE this century.
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:41 am

Yep and it's still not enough to make me not wanna cancel my subscription after this Laugh

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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:43 am

I was prepared for Cole saying he was paying homage to D'Von Dudley then Laugh

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:46 am

My feed is a couple of minutes behind you Smile

I'm wondering if Finn's hit a reverse bloody sunday in WWE yet.
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:48 am

Your going to enjoy the next few mins then it's great Laugh

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:50 am

WWE still can't build stars, but luckily they hired a couple. Yahoo
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:53 am

Very Happy

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:55 am

So, they've officially renamed the Bloody Sunday now then to avoid any controversy. Apparently its now called "great move" clap

That went at 100mph from the bell. I'm definitely over 4* for that, and might just say damn it have the 4.5*
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:00 pm

30 mins to go and we're on to the tag match angel Maybe it is Diego Main eventing Laugh

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:03 pm

I'm hoping the closing 5 is Owens taking out his anger of losing on Cena.
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:07 pm

Cole & Saxton trending worldwide Laugh I guess commentating from WWE HQ is working better then usual.

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:08 pm

So.. after all that, we have Kane in his slacks. Doh
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:13 pm

He'd look a bit ridiculous in his old outfit nowadays tbf Laugh

#WeWantDiego

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:14 pm

I feel like somehow I switched over from a PPV to Smackdown

I'd love Michael Cole to tell us that #WeWantDiego is trending
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:15 pm

According to Tw@tter it was a dark match too Sad

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:18 pm

I'm wondering if Ziggler hasn't re-signed a wrestling contract and that's why he's only able to stand on the apron Smile
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:19 pm

Tbh if he leaves i literally don't care. Just call up Tyler Breeze and you have a younger version of him really.

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:25 pm

And better? One thing I like about Breeze is I think he really learned how to put some snap in those kicks while working with Itami. I think there is a danger with that kind of character that he looks fluffy, which is fine heeling it up coming to the ring, but he has to add that edge when he is working. If he does that I think he can be a fine wrestler.
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Post by Fernando Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:34 pm

Well that's a bunch of a Poopie. Should of had the NXT Title main event.

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:39 pm

Ah sure, was just a warm up for tomorrow's PPV Wink
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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Sat 04 Jul 2015, 1:07 pm

I started watching this at 10:55, so didn't get involved with this chat. Neville/Jericho was a good start. Great to see Jericho break out the Lion tamer.

Divas title match could have been a lot worse considering Tamina was involved. Paige and Nikki were wisely involved in the bulk of the action and the match was better for it.

Lesnar/Kingston did exactly what I expected.

Balor/Owens was excellent. The video packages for Balor over the last three weeks have been superb, and prior to the match I thought Finn would go over. Loads of tension and action , and a compelling finish. I still think Finn was behind the Itami attack, so should turn heel shortly.

The main event was a massive anti-climax.

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Post by Samo Sat 04 Jul 2015, 2:28 pm

Even though it was written in the stars that Balor would win today, it was still an excellent match and Im so happy Balor won. The mini-doc building up to this has done a great deal of putting him over as a babyface. Owens is an incredible heel. Throwing away the flowers and then saying he hates Japan and everyone in it was gold. Excellent, excellent match.

Neville vs Jericho was a very good match aswell. Jericho going over doesnt really hurt Neville because apart from the NXT title this is essentially a house show.

Everything else was kind of there. I dont know what people were expecting from Lesnar vs Kofi. It was everything it had to be, which was to establish Lesnar.

Line of the Night ironically goes to Maggle Cole for 'Thats why they call him KO!' No maggle, they call him that because thats his initials.

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Post by Marky Sat 04 Jul 2015, 10:27 pm

Just watched it. Thought it was pretty good.

Jericho v Neville was great, expected Jericho to win as he's so popular in Japan, Neville looked strong as well.
Divas title match was a continuation of the storyline, Paige close but not close enough to beating Nikki Bella.
Brock v Kofi is what it is, Brock being a beast. Kofi got some half decent offense in, hoped the rest of The New Day would have a bit more of an impact post match but so be it.
Owens v Balor was superb, it was probably nailed on for Balor to win but I expected a Cena assist, surprised to see Balor go over clean although probably an assist from a "hometown" crowd and Balor's demon.
Cena/Ziggler v Barrett/Kane was your standard house show main event, not sure why people expected an Owens attack. I was hoping for one, but they usually end house shows with the good guy(s) celebrating.

A much better show than your standard Raw, and it was only 2 hours long. Hint hint. Hint.

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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 10:57 pm

For me, it wasn't that I ever expected Owens to appear at the end of the show, because by the placing of the main event, it was kind of obvious what the show was. But it would have made it worth my while sitting through that 25 minute bog-standard Raw tag team event if something had of occurred. Do you not think those guys could have just gone a bit harder following what they were and with the match being shown on the Network. Barrett in particular just headlock after headlock, I can't imagine a wrester phoning it in more than he does.
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Post by Prometheus Sat 04 Jul 2015, 11:44 pm

I think an interesting question to ask now is "Is Balor a good choice as NXT champion?"

NXT is attempting to enter a rapid growth phase, indeed there is an argument to be made that with the WWE money and marketing behind it it can not fail. But, I don't believe that can be achieved without the right roster too. Let's set the women to one side. Because for all their deserved praise, IMO a male roster of an organization is still the one that sells.

So we have Balor. And there's a lot of upside to him, don't get me wrong. He's a really experienced and solid hand. I think that not only can he wrestle a good match, but he can also bring the best out of his opponent.

But the big question has to be "does he have the IT factor?". And I don't just mean that he has a cool entrance or bodypaint, because that might draw for a while, but it's also going to get to be old hat. And here, I think some aspects count against him. I'm still not getting the Demon character as anything more that a painting. I've also not heard him deliver killer promos. And I do believe he's a solid hand. I do believe that he's a good worker. But in the WWE style, I don't know there just feels at times a real lack of flow to some of his matches.

Let's also look at what's around him. There's Joe. And Tyler Breeze. AFAIK both Itami and Zayn will be out for some time. So, I dunno you've feuds there. But didn't we see him already fighing Breeze? I think that WWE needs someone new in (Aries?), or they really, really need to drop down Cesaro for whom they seem to have no plans. Because otherwise Balor might be good, but no way is he carrying Baron Corbin or Solomon Crowe.

I don't think there was a better choice than Balor to take this title. But, I do think the work starts for him now. And the upside is that if he is a draw then he'll really get noticed. But I do think there is the chance of a downside there too.
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 05 Jul 2015, 3:52 am

Just got finished watching this

Neville vs Jericho, I may have a slightly biased view of this given In not a Jericho fan but I thought the match was fine and nothing more, Jericho looked a little bit slow attempting some of his more athletic spots but given he was in the ring with one of the most, if not the most athletically gifted wrestlers in the world comparisons were never going to be favourable to him, I'm also not a fan of when flying wrestlers are clearly just jumping for the same of being countered which kind of took me out of the codebreaker spot unless Neville was seriously looking to attempt a flying cuddle, anyways fine match

Diva's match was pretty good, Nikki and Paige were the 2 workhorses of the match obviously, I think they've got good chemistry together, certainly better than Paige and AJ did, anyone else notice the way Tamina drops to all fours before attempting a pin, it looks odd and I'm sure at one point the ref counted a pin before she had physically made contact with Paige, I enjoyed the stiff forearm finish which was certainly very Japanese if nothing else

Brock vs Kofi was as absurd and fun as I expected, in my head I could have seen it being a bit more fun if New Day had actually been involved in the match with Brock just tossing all 3 about but still we got it after the match and it was an unexpected treat to see Brock back in the ring, particularly as his involvement was just a coincidence based on his visit to Masa Saito

I thought the NXT match was great, I'm still not sold 100% on the Balor entrance but I think the body paint is a cool look and I enjoy the way they've tried to modify it slightly the past few outings like with the kanji on his back this time, Owens' was great as usual with his verbals and heel mannerisms and the match delivered in the ring, probably my favourite 'NXT' match this year outside of Balor/Neville and Banks/Lynch

I'll be honest I didn't bother with the main event, looked like standard smackdown tag on paper and I've seen no reviews to suggest this was anything but, a wierd irony that the first time WWE give us a show at a reasonable hour they also give us arguably the most skip this and get an extra 30mins shut eye main event ever, still given this was essentially a souped up house show, much like I do with New Japan and their endless 10 man tags, I'm going to take this for the bonus treat that it was and not give them a hard time about it

Outside of the straight bell to bell stuff, I really enjoyed the overall look of the show, Sumo hall had a distinct feel to it and was a refreshing break from the homogenised arena setup WWE usually presents outside of Wrestlemania, the crowd were an odd mix of a traditional Japanese crowd and a regular WWE crowd which took some getting used to but they were into the show and created an atmosphere which was nice

Finally I've got to say I quite enjoyed the commentary team tonight, I actually think Cole has become a very decent play by play guy when he's not having to plug 1 million different things and Saxton as his partner may be pretty bland and inoffensive but tbh at this stage I'll take that over the endless bickering we get on Raw, he gently and kindly passed over the Bull Nakano slip up and allowed them to focus on the matches and the stories, if it had been JBL he still would have been referencing it 3 matches later, on that note though they mentioned the Nakano/Blaze title change as being 1 of 2 to happen in Japan, from memory the other is Regal and Tajiri when the beat La Resistance for the tag belts after Regal and Eugene had lost them following Eugene's injury, can anyone confirm this because it might be the most random wrestling memory that I have?

Overall given this card was a bonus that we were never going to see until Lesnar decided he'd be in the area this was a super fun, sometimes random show, nothing that will seriously trouble my MOTY standings in December but I pleasant way to spend 2 hours, or in my case 90 minutes

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 05 Jul 2015, 7:41 pm

Thought it was really good. Fast, interesting and considering it wasnt advertised particularly or played into WWE stories it still had far more relevance to WWE TV than Slammiversary did for Impact.

Really enjoyed Jericho vs Neville. It held my attention the best even considering Owens was on the card. There were good spots, including the ever so forced one into the Codebreaker. Actually think it was good for Jericho to win a) cos the crowd wanted it b) he does need to win some matches occasionally. My only problem is that they should have done a handshake or some sort of show of respect from Jericho.

The Brock match was a little short and they should have used the New Day as a whole a lot earlier. I am the only one, i'm sure, who is a little annoyed to see Big E, a more imposing figure than Woods and Kingston, just tossed around regardless. And whilst it was obviously a squash match to showcase Lesnar and also just a quick spot on the card, it felt a little soft.

Owens v Balor was good. Still needs to work on that entrance, especially as the music is so damn good. Owens' little heel touches were very good. I also think its good WWE did those videos recently for Balor, because as an in ring performer he doesnt do a lot to make me will him to win. The crowd were unsurprisingly in love with him, and I was happy to hear IWGP achievements recognised during commentary. Not sure where it leaves Owens, to some extent, and now WWE is recognising NXT performers in the main shows it will be interesting to see how Owens without the NXT belt is dealt with on Raw. The match itself was very good, although I cant actually remember if Owens hit a Pop up Powerbomb or not? I also wonder now what this does for Samoa Joe vs Owens on NXT. I hope its completely deferred to the main roster, and would be a possible option to counter Owens winning against Cena.

Divas match was fine. Whilst Tamina isnt rated, I found her inclusion more enjoyable than any other diva on the main roster (Emma aside). She at least holds physical intimidation in her arsenal, something none of the others do. Also good to see her take the fall.

Finally, the last match. It wasnt main event standard, but it was reasonably fun and the crowd lapped up Cena. Even in Japan, even in House's house, Cena shirts stood out the most.

House - I think it depends on the regard in which people hold the World Tag Team championships in contrast to the WWE Tag Team championships. Think the worlds changed hands in Japan around 2005.

The sumo hall setting was brilliant, the show looked brilliant and the commentary team did a good job. JBL needs to learn his lesson from it, because when he began he seemed insightful but now he is a caricature. Cole was up to his actual standards and it was no surprise to hear better performances without the advertising shackles usually placed on him.

All in all, enjoyable two hours of my life. Would recommend to a friend.

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Post by Hero Sun 05 Jul 2015, 7:49 pm

I wonder if there's a Balor heel turn on its way and he was the one that put Itami on the shelf.

Edit: noticed Nakatomi thinks similar.

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Post by Samo Sun 05 Jul 2015, 8:53 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:The crowd were unsurprisingly in love with him, and I was happy to hear IWGP achievements recognised during commentary. Not sure where it leaves Owens, to some extent, and now WWE is recognising NXT performers in the main shows it will be interesting to see how Owens without the NXT belt is dealt with on Raw. The match itself was very good, although I cant actually remember if Owens hit a Pop up Powerbomb or not?

Owens didnt hit the power bomb, which im glad. We see too many finisher kick outs so it stops it being watered down before he hits Cena with it. As far as I can recall Cena is the only person to kick out of it. Owens kicking out of Balors finisher makes sense though, it actually puts Balor over more because he had a bigger obstacle to climb.

I would love to see Owens completely lose it now. Just go on an angry wrecking spree killing everyone in his path. Have him wipe out an NXT taping so Regal has no choice but to release him from his NXT contract. He can just murder everybody until he wins the US title from Cena.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 06 Jul 2015, 2:04 am

http://wrestlingnews.co/reason-why-the-production-was-great-for-saturdays-beat-in-the-east-show/?doing_wp_cron=1436136944.9070160388946533203125

Says the reason the production was so good was because WWE didnt do it, J Sports did. Oh and Kevin Dunn wasnt involved.

Also says Cena went on last because hes the big draw in Japan, which is no surprise.

Another thing I wanted to mention...there seemed to be less pin attempts in the two best matches (Owens/Balor, Neville/Y2J) which I think made them a lot better.

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Post by Kay Fabe Mon 06 Jul 2015, 9:15 pm

What a great show, loved the fact that it had such an old school WWF feel to it woth how the arena was laid out, it wouldn't do thr WWE any harm if once in a while depending on the City/location if they reworked their set, thought the first three matches delivered big time and the main event was what it was, I zoned out so couldn't tell you a single thing that happened but Cena has by the MVP this year for me so I'm not going to hold a what I imagine to be generic RAW/SmackDown! Tag Match against him.

Jericho/Neville match was superb, it was refreshing watching a match in front of a non smark enthusiastic crowd who bought into thr match and the participants, I'm long over Jericho, doubt many championed him more than me in 2007-2010 but after he dropped the World.Title to Swagger he was as good as done for me as a genuinely interesting character, I thought he turned back the clock pretty well on Saturday Night, his timing wasn't quite great on a few things but its been a while since he's been in the ring and Neville must be one of the paciest performers in Wrestling right now let alone WWE, the match worked pretty well and I enjoyed the way the fans bought into Neville and turned slightly against Jericho toward the end, granted that was down to Jericho's heelish tactics but felt it showed Neville could get the crowd to empathise with him, the Lion Tamer when used correctly us brutal and a brilliant finisher

Brock/Kingston - Didn't quite understand the logic in this match from the onset, Kingston is never a legitimate opponent for Brock but assumed it was a chance for Brock to go 3-1 with New Day, it's not ideal for New Day but it was a good opportunity to see Brock look like a face, in the end it didn't turn out that way but I just can't be disappointed when watching Brock Lesnar - long way for Kofi to go just do a job but it is what it is

Owens/Balor - Absolutely breathtaking, its impossible to say anything that isn't already obvious to anyone who watched that match, I really like Balor, I think he can fill a void Jeff Hardy left, the WWE haven't really found someone to take his mantle and while I think Balor is a better performer, I think he can have that vulnerability about him that fans will.buy into, absolutely love his body paint, Brock Lesner aside, Owens for me is the best thing in Wrestling right now. love his look, his ring presence, the way he controls the crowd, his "lazy" promos...everything, he makes it feel real, I buy into what he says and does, I replay what he says and the things he does to make sure he isn't sloppy, brilliant

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Post by Crimey Mon 06 Jul 2015, 10:36 pm

Prometheus wrote:Kevin Owens is the best out and out heel we've probably see in the WWE this century.

Really?

He's been around for a couple of months and you already rank him ahead of:

Rock around 2003
Triple H 2000-2001 (some would also say Evolution Triple H although I'm not as big a fan)
Edge 
Chris Jericho 2007-2010
CM Punk Straight Edge Society and then from 2013-2014
Batista heel run in 2010
The Shield
The Wyatt family

I could see him challenging some of those if he can keep this run up for months longer and not just in a feud with the biggest star in wrestling. But I think it's a huge hyperbole to suggest that he's matched what those people did for years and in some bad storylines to what Kevin Owens has achieved in less than six months total.

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Post by Prometheus Mon 06 Jul 2015, 11:09 pm

I think the caveat was in "out and out" heel. A number of those above were 'cool heels', still heels in a feud with faces, but not necessarily there to be truly properly loathed and booed out of the building, which is what Owens is doing.

And 'probably' means for me that we can argue about the others.

And if WWE is going to bleed NXT matches into their events I'm going to bleed Owens' time in NXT and his feuds and stories there into this.
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Post by kingraf Mon 06 Jul 2015, 11:24 pm

Looks it in hindsight, and with the fact that he did return... But I don't think Hollywood Rock was booed because he was cool.
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