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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Sun 02 Dec 2012, 9:52 am

THE POOL ALLOCATION DRAW WILL BE STREAMED LIVE ON RUGBYWORLDCUP.COM FROM 14:55 UK TIME ON 3 DECEMBER (15:55 CET, 16:55 (South Africa), 11:55 (Argentina), 01:55 4 December (NSW Australia), 03:55 4 December (New Zealand, Fiji), 04:55 4 December (Samoa)

Featuring Boris Johnson amongst the glitterati so it's anyone's guess what sort of a dick he'll make of himself.
(note to IRB: the RWC was granted to England, not London).
p.s. good call not inviting Cameron though.

I can't find any mention of the event on the ITV* schedules which as UK host broadcaster is disappointing up to the point when one realises that that font of rugby wisdom, Steve Rider will not be anchoring the event.

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 02 Dec 2012, 10:11 am

greytiger wrote:Featuring Boris Johnson amongst the glitterati so it's anyone's guess what sort of a dick he'll make of himself.

Off topic but my BoJo story:

Youngest daughter was head of her junior school's student council last year and went to visit the London Assembly and meet Johnson.

"hello little girl, aren't you a pretty little thing" says Johnson
"Yes" says my not lacking in confidence daughter "but I am clever as well" (see)
"Ha, ha yes you are. Do you know what I do?"
"You are the Mayor" says daughter 2 "but my daddy says you are a muppet" (oops)
"Oh" he says "But Kermit is clever and brave"
"Kermit is green" she says "You are more like Miss Piggy!!"

Needless to say the head teacher was mortified.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun 02 Dec 2012, 12:39 pm

I can't wait. Got a feeling Wales will be grouped with Australia Laugh
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Post by LondonTiger Sun 02 Dec 2012, 12:49 pm

NZ, Eng, Scotland
SA, Samoa, Tonga
Aus, Ireland, Wales
France, Argentina, Italy

My prediction Very Happy

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Post by Morgannwg Sun 02 Dec 2012, 12:55 pm

LondonTiger wrote:NZ, Eng, Scotland
SA, Samoa, Tonga
Aus, Ireland, Wales
France, Argentina, Italy

My prediction Very Happy

Well hopefully by then we will have learnt to beat Australia while keeping up a good record against Ireland Very Happy.

Would like to avoid Samoa and NZ (just to keep the injuries and losses down). But will take any of the others.
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 02 Dec 2012, 6:08 pm

I think a good draw would be:

NZ, Eng, Wal
SA, Arg, Sco
Aus, Sam, Ton
Fra, Irl, Ita.
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Post by HammerofThunor Sun 02 Dec 2012, 6:16 pm

Morgannwg wrote:I can't wait. Got a feeling Wales will be grouped with Australia Laugh

Bottle it up. It'll make that QF/SF victory over them all the sweeter Wink

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Post by Argie fan Sun 02 Dec 2012, 6:38 pm

I just hope that Argentina will play in the New Zealand group, so we avoid them in the quarterfinals.
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Post by PJHolybloke Sun 02 Dec 2012, 6:51 pm

My guess is:

New Zealand, Ireland, Tonga.

South Africa, England, Italy.

Australia, Argentina, Wales ("The Group of Death").

France, Samoa, Scotland (France fail to qualify).

Pick da boons out of that...
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Post by Shifty Sun 02 Dec 2012, 7:04 pm

Australia, Samoa, Wales

NewZealand, England, Scotland

France, Argentina, Italy

South Africa, Ireland, Tonga

That would be the most fun imho.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 02 Dec 2012, 7:11 pm

greytiger wrote:THE POOL ALLOCATION DRAW WILL BE STREAMED LIVE ON RUGBYWORLDCUP.COM FROM 14:55 UK TIME ON 3 DECEMBER (15:55 CET, 16:55 (South Africa), 11:55 (Argentina), 01:55 4 December (NSW Australia), 03:55 4 December (New Zealand, Fiji), 04:55 4 December (Samoa)

Featuring Boris Johnson amongst the glitterati so it's anyone's guess what sort of a dick he'll make of himself.
(note to IRB: the RWC was granted to England, not London).
p.s. good call not inviting Cameron though.

I can't find any mention of the event on the ITV* schedules which as UK host broadcaster is disappointing up to the point when one realises that that font of rugby wisdom, Steve Rider will not be anchoring the event.

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IRB Rugby World Cup 2015 – Pool Stage Draw
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Post by emack2 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 7:34 am

Is it a blind draw once the group leader is announced i.e the seeded sides then just a case of luck .Or is it open tp o politically based chicanery,for example Nz have never lost at the Group stage.By 2015 even after saturday would you bet against them being unbeaten in the Groups again?

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 8:38 am

** THE POOL ALLOCATION DRAW WILL BE STREAMED LIVE ON RUGBYWORLDCUP.COM FROM 14:55 UK TIME ON 3 DECEMBER

(15:55 CET, 16:55 (South Africa), 11:55 (Argentina), 01:55 4 December (NSW Australia), 03:55 4 December (New Zealand, Fiji), 04:55 4 December (Samoa) **



Here are a few facts on REC pools to wet your appetite...!

Interesting statistics on past RWC pools
(RUGBY WORLD CUP) Sunday 2 December 2012

South Africa and Samoa have been drawn in the same pool at the last three Rugby World Cups, will they be paired together again at England 2015?
To whet your appetite ahead of the Rugby World Cup 2015 Pool Allocation Draw in London on Monday we bring you some Interesting statistics on past Rugby World Cup pools for the directly qualified teams.
* New Zealand have always finished top of its pool in Rugby World Cup history.
* Eight other nations have topped a RWC pool – France (five times), South Africa and Australia (four times), England (three times), Wales (twice), Argentina, Ireland and Scotland (once).
* Australia have never met New Zealand, France or Scotland in the pool stages in Rugby World Cup history.
* England faces France, Ireland and Wales every year in the RBS Six Nations, but has never met them in the pool stages.
* Samoa and South Africa have been drawn in the same pool at the last three Rugby World Cups.
* France have never been drawn in the same pool as Australia, England, Italy, South Africa, Samoa or Wales. By contrast they have faced Scotland three times in the pool stages – in 1987, 1995 and 2003.
* The hosts and defending champions have been drawn in the same pool on two occasions – England and New Zealand in 1991 and South Africa and Australia in 1995.
* Ireland have been in the same pool as Australia on three occasions (1999, 2003 and 2011). They have also met the Wallabies twice in the knockout stages.
* Italy and New Zealand are no strangers to each other in RWC pool stages, having faced each other in five of the seven tournaments to date, the exceptions being 1995 and 2011.
* The defending champions have never met Australia, Samoa, Scotland or South Africa in the pool stages, but have faced three of the quartet in the knockout stages.
* South Africa have never faced Argentina, France, Ireland, Italy or New Zealand in a RWC pool match.
* Tonga have found New Zealand awaiting them in the pool stages on three occasions (1999, 2003 and 2011).
* Wales and Samoa have been drawn in the same pool on three occasions with the Welsh finally discovering that winning formula in 2011 after losses in 1991 and 1999.
* Argentina and South Africa have never met in the pool stages of a Rugby World Cup.
* Scotland have been drawn in the same pool as Romania at the last two Rugby World Cups, but have never met Australia, Samoa or USA at this stage of the tournament.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 03 Dec 2012, 9:18 am

I really have this feeling we will get NZ and England
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Post by muzzer_mc Mon 03 Dec 2012, 9:26 am

maestegmafia wrote:
* Scotland have been drawn in the same pool as Romania at the last two Rugby World Cups, but have never met Australia, Samoa or USA at this stage of the tournament.

They played USA in the pool stage in the 2003 world cup

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Rugby_World_Cup#Pool_Stage_2

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 03 Dec 2012, 9:28 am

dude if its england nz and wales-- that is so wrong!!!


but what a group!!

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Post by LondonTiger Mon 03 Dec 2012, 9:33 am

In both RWCs where england played pool matches at twickenham - they have faced NZ in the first match. Somehow I just feel that will happen again.

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 9:39 am

muzzer_mc wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
* Scotland have been drawn in the same pool as Romania at the last two Rugby World Cups, but have never met Australia, Samoa or USA at this stage of the tournament.

They played USA in the pool stage in the 2003 world cup

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Rugby_World_Cup#Pool_Stage_2

The Link is a C&P from the IRB website, drop them a line.

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Post by doctor_grey Mon 03 Dec 2012, 10:04 am

LondonTiger wrote:In both RWCs where england played pool matches at twickenham - they have faced NZ in the first match. Somehow I just feel that will happen again.
Would be a hell of a curtain raiser for the tournament............

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 10:14 am

doctor_grey wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:In both RWCs where england played pool matches at twickenham - they have faced NZ in the first match. Somehow I just feel that will happen again.
Would be a hell of a curtain raiser for the tournament............

Got a bit of history there now too...!

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Post by Toadfish Mon 03 Dec 2012, 11:50 am

Will be interesting to see what happens with the scheduling if England draw Wales in their group. I think I read that Wales were to play their group games in Cardiff but don't think England would be too happy playing 'away' whilst hosting.

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Post by HammerofThunor Mon 03 Dec 2012, 11:57 am

Although some of the games will be in Cardiff I had read that Wales wouldn't be playing there. I don't think it's been sorted yet. Hopefully Samoa will play some games in Leicester.

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Post by gregortree Mon 03 Dec 2012, 12:17 pm

AUSSIES respecting England & Wales:
"The Wallabies will be hoping to avoid rising England and faltering Six Nations champions Wales when the 2015 Rugby World Cup draw is held early Tuesday morning (AEDT).
Australia pulled off grinding and somewhat fortunate wins over the English and Welsh in the past three weeks – to guarantee a top pool seeding – but want neither nation drawn alongside them in three years time."


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Post by Morgannwg Mon 03 Dec 2012, 2:39 pm

We have duplicate threads on this btw. Who's the fastest to post the draw?
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Post by LondonTiger Mon 03 Dec 2012, 2:42 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:Although some of the games will be in Cardiff I had read that Wales wouldn't be playing there. I don't think it's been sorted yet. Hopefully Samoa will play some games in Leicester.

would only be at the Walker King Power Crispbowl if they do.

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 2:45 pm

15 minutes until all is announced.

Live coverage

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-news/2012/12/03/rugby-world-cup-2015-draw-live-3pm-monday-91466-32348433/

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 2:57 pm

Mon. Lappest just entered the stage...!

Congratulates all nations on how competitive they have made the fight for the current seedings.

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Post by GLove39 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 2:58 pm

Not keen on Greenwood's tie vomit

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Post by tigertattie Mon 03 Dec 2012, 2:59 pm

my stream is bust. someone be so kind as to add each team as they are drawn?
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Post by gregortree Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:00 pm

Have they all ?

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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:01 pm

Boris Johnson is speaking, oh god.
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:01 pm

Boris Johnson is an absolute buffoon
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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:02 pm

Mr Moron Esquire, Mayor Boris arrives on stage and tries to crack a few funnies about the history of the game...!


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Post by tigertattie Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:03 pm

I love boris. Boris for next PM

Joing aside, Radge, put me out of my miery and tell me who we get.

Oz and Samoa would be good thx
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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:03 pm

Will Greenwood's turn now...

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Post by GLove39 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:05 pm

Quite enjoyed Boris' speech to be honest, a lot more interesting than then the other suits at the launch

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:05 pm

tigertattie wrote:I love boris. Boris for next PM

Joing aside, Radge, put me out of my miery and tell me who we get.

Oz and Samoa would be good thx

I'm not drawing it man! Wink
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Post by tigertattie Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:07 pm

Lol

But are you watching it?

Damm work and thier tupid IT policies
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Post by George Carlin Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:08 pm

Live feed here:
http://www.rugbydump.com/2012/12/2907/rugby-world-cup-2015-pool-allocation-draw-live-stream

Greenwood has the Worst Tie Of All Time.
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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:11 pm

richie mccaw is up first


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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:12 pm

Here ist comes...????

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Post by rodders Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:13 pm

Shoite Ritchie please don't give us the ABs and Wales man! Shocked
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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:13 pm

Pool A Wales

Pool B Scotland

Pool C Tonga

Pool D Italy

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:14 pm

Wales Pool A and England
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Post by wales606 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:14 pm

A
Australia
England
Wales
Oceania 1
Play off winner

B
South Africa
Samoa
Scotland
Asia 1
America B

C
New Zealand
Argentina
Tonga
Europe 1
Africa 1

D
France
Ireland
Italy
Americas 1
Europe 2


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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:14 pm

Pool A Wales - England

Pool B Scotland - Samoa

Pool C Tonga - Argies

Pool D Italy - Ireland

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Post by Morgannwg Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:14 pm

Yesss England and Wales haha.
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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:15 pm

Australia well lets hope we learn to beat them and run clock down not kick ball away but I doubt it
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Post by asoreleftshoulder Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:15 pm

France,Ireland,Italy. Could have been worse now we just have three years to get over the hoodoo France have on us.

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 03 Dec 2012, 3:15 pm

Pool A Wales - England - Australia

Pool B Scotland - Samoa - SA

Pool C Tonga - Argies - NZ

Pool D Italy - Ireland - France

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