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Post by anotherworldofpain Mon 11 Jun 2012, 10:40 pm

Dear Esteemable Poster Friends. Now is the end of my language course about England and I write the final paper to get a mark. I wonder if you can spare some minutes and checking my write about rugby (of course) and then I can get the pass and start to make mentor teaching position to other people arrive! And also if you want to make the comment about my thinking is good too!

The Under Rated Faletau:

So much talk always surround the build up to a Wales international rugby match about what George North (The Welsh Lomu) will do. His fire-breathing 7 feet frame and impregnatable biceps are occupy the newspaper inches that once taken up by the odd-coloured Welshman Gavin Henson.

But another Welshman, Faletau was filling many forum inches after Wales shock loss to Australia. Most of it not so kind. The accusation was he fail to make enough distance carrying the ball. He couldn't break the defense line and he was shy about making tackles.

This remarks are in a contrast to his media profile in recent time. Such shining praise as the following sentence were made about him as recent time as last year's world cup finals when Wales themself earned top marks for what was view as a successful campaign.

"Man of the match in that semi-final defeat, Toby Faletau, has been one of the standout players in this tournament, with both his defence and work rate in attack going unrivalled by any other player in the competition. He has made both more carries and tackles than any other player and he will once again be a key figure for Warren Gatland’s men going into this Bronze Final."

Even the famous Wales player with much more authentic ring to the same Martyn Williams descibe this man with a shower of respectfulness "He is phenomenal, the most naturally gifted rugby player I have ever played with".

So what occur now, that such a player was made the subject of some blame for the poor show of Wales on Saturday? It transpire after the game that Faletau suffer an injury and has now been replace in team by Garth Delve.

Is it possible that this injury was the cause behind the criticism given to Toby Faletau after the game? And in turn was his appartently poor showing a key to unlock the riddle of the Welsh loss?

In a land that love the open fluent running style known as "The Welsh Way", is too much emphasised on the glamour of a strong fast running finisher? and too little credit given about a player who is make his mark in the unglamorous engine room behind an impressive Welsh scrum?

Just my thoughts.




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Post by CurlyOsp Mon 11 Jun 2012, 10:45 pm

Odd Coloured? So you're not even trying to hide your racism any more?

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Post by anotherworldofpain Mon 11 Jun 2012, 10:46 pm

CurlyOsp wrote:Odd Coloured? So you're not even trying to hide your racism any more?

It's wrong to make this joke?

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 11 Jun 2012, 10:56 pm

If its OK for Biltong to make jokes about pot boilers its OK for ANWOP to make jokes about Hensons Oringina accident

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:00 pm

CurlyOsp wrote:Odd Coloured? So you're not even trying to hide your racism any more?

Although it might have been in poor taste, you are taking that completely out of context. What he said was; odd coloured welshman. Obviously referring to the fact he is Tongan. He is not calling Faletau "odd coloured". There is a difference.

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Post by CurlyOsp Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:03 pm

Odd coloured refers directly to skin colour. It's discrimination whatever way you look at it.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:06 pm

So is calling people welsh

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Post by Shifty Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:06 pm

He is not writing in his first language and something clearly got lost in translation. I dont think it was meant to be racist. Don't jump down his throat over it.

Faletau had a broken bone in his arm for much of that match. He has also had a awful end to the season with the Dragons in free fall. It's no suprising he is a little off form.
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Post by anotherworldofpain Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:07 pm

Sorry CurlyOsp I thank you for this prespective and know that it can make offending so I appologise.

For me was just said "tongue-in-cheek" way to mention that Faletau comes from Pacific Island by heritage and that also make a nice way to segue from mention Henson and North and move on the topic.

I didn't mean to make an imply that Wales fans might overlook this talent or make scapegoat because of race.

But I will take this out and make a new idea because I don't want to sound like Ukranian football fan.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:08 pm

Didnt realise that Alyn, thatll explain why he looked a bit off colour.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:11 pm

CurlyOsp wrote:Odd coloured refers directly to skin colour. It's discrimination whatever way you look at it.

Nope, you are being over sensitive. He is referring to the fact he is a tongan in Wales.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:12 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Didnt realise that Alyn, thatll explain why he looked a bit off colour.

Laugh

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:12 pm

I love AWOP, genuinely. If you're a WUM, good on you, you're hilarious and quite original and sometimes insightful to the point of proper satire.

If you're genuine, you are a character, brave to test your second language on this forum, improving in said language and still quite funny and insightful.

I am really not sure which is the case but frankly I don't care
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:32 pm

For what it is worth about Faletau, he has had some HUGE games for the Dragons. I really want to see him do this for Wales, to see him play a much more expansive running game, but he doesn't. He has real pace and power, but we never see it. Just his tackle count.

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Post by anotherworldofpain Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:34 pm

Stop look at his tackle then Rory.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:35 pm

Classic
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Post by Biltong Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:47 pm

I have edited the OP. AWOP, it is probably not a good idea to makr jokes about race, some may misinterpret your intent at being funny as offensive.
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Post by Biltong Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:48 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:If its OK for Biltong to make jokes about pot boilers its OK for ANWOP to make jokes about Hensons Oringina accident

Did you have an issue with my cannibal joke?
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:48 pm

anotherworldofpain wrote:Stop look at his tackle then Rory.

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Post by anotherworldofpain Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:50 pm

biltongbek wrote:I have edited the OP. AWOP, it is probably not a good idea to makr jokes about race, some may misinterpret your intent at being funny as offensive.

Meat eater Whistle

But it will be seriously help if you can explain me why is OK to call Henson odd-colouring but not Faletau? Both is just a joke and to me is more ok because Faletau is real Tongan but Henson not real martian. My country doesnt have this angry about talk about where someone come from and what colour is their body to the normal for that country and I am worry that I make people annoying by accident.

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Post by Cymroglan Mon 11 Jun 2012, 11:55 pm

We cant interpret intent .. We either have a clear set of rules or we just let everything go,

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:00 am

There was nothing offensive about what he said, it has been changed, and that is the end of it.

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:02 am

Rory_Gallagher wrote:There was nothing offensive about what he said, it has been changed, and that is the end of it.

Question , In your opinion what colour should a Welshman be ?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:02 am

Which country? Japan?
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Post by Biltong Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:05 am

Cymroglan wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:There was nothing offensive about what he said, it has been changed, and that is the end of it.

Question , In your opinion what colour should a Welshman be ?

Cymro, I have edtied the post, I have warned AWOP, it there anything you feel that was not done?
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:08 am

Cymroglan wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:There was nothing offensive about what he said, it has been changed, and that is the end of it.

Question , In your opinion what colour should a Welshman be ?

Answer: That is a stupid question, and you are looking for something to be offended about. He was clearly making a joke about the fact he is a Tongan in Wales. Seriously, people love to get offended over the silliest things. This kind of thing always reminds me of this quote:

Spoiler:

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:08 am

biltong why are you asking me this ?

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:08 am

Because you are complaining for no reason, and it has already been dealt with.

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Post by Biltong Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:10 am

Cymroglan wrote:biltong why are you asking me this ?
cymro, because you are not letting it go.
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Post by Cymroglan Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:11 am

He called him a odd coloured Welshman.
You found nothing wrong with that,,, So I will ask the question in another way again ,, What colour is a Welshman and what would be a odd coloured Welshman

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:12 am

So it's fine for Rory to talk about it.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:13 am

You are being ridiculous. Stop making this into something it isn't.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:14 am

What do you mean is it okay for me to talk about it? You brought it up and I replied?

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:14 am

Stop pretending it was meant to be a joke,, You know full well that AWOP has perfect English and that post was designed to be offensive.


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Post by Cymroglan Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:15 am

And I replied

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Post by Biltong Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:17 am

Cymro I am done talking.

I have had enough of this.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:18 am

Cymroglan wrote:Stop pretending it was meant to be a joke,, You know full well that AWOP has perfect English and that post was designed to be offensive.

You seriously think it was intended to be racist? Didn't you make a comment about me the other day saying that I take this forum too seriously? I think you should take your own advice mate. Why complain about nothing.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:19 am

Just lock the thread biltong, and then the whinging will stop.

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Post by profitius Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:20 am

The PC brigade destroys another thread. Well done.
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Post by Cymroglan Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:21 am

Yer it clearly was a attempt at being racist,,, There was no need to mention his colour.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:22 am

profitius wrote:The PC brigade destroys another thread. Well done.

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